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Even an average joe with average looks/personalitys/jobs etc do well with women and I'm sure they wouldn't be classed as " winners " in most people's eyes or would they?.
What's your question? Or is it another rant?
It's a very loose term.
A total lifelong loser, or a lifelong virgin, could win the lottery or get rich off a bet by sheer fluke, does he automatically become a winner?
Surely what people ultimately want is fundamentally a good person. Other qualities are needed to supplement that to supply attraction.
Before I started dating my girlfriend I was alone for about 7 months and I didn't think highly of myself at all. If I don't see myself as a winner, how can a woman see me as one? Women like men who like themselves.
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I complete agree with the OP. Women are looking for a guy who is generally smart, hard working, thrifty, honest, kind, and will in life be able to provide a good living. A man might generally be a good man, but if his choice of vocation means he will be in the lower end of the income ladder, he will not gather much interest. If he has rich parents or has or will inherit a great deal of money, this is also attractive. Certainly looks, personality play a role in his attractiveness, but I don't know if I've ever heard of a woman who wanted to marry a poor good looking man, unless maybe she had plenty of money of her own.
Does this mean women are soulless gold diggers who only care about money. NO. Men are no better, as the woman with a great personality, smart and fun is not going to be very popular if she is not physically attractive. But in her case also, if her family has money, this also can raise her popularity and desirability. This is just the way it is. Most people are pretty shallow.
I get what you are saying Augie, and maybe I have been out of the singles loop for too long or something, but reality is money cant buy a happy life or a good relationship.
My husband and I started out together with no money, but we built a Camelot for ourselves as far as the relationship and homelife goes. I could be happy living out of a tent with him, and for a time, I was.
As long as people are focused on materialistic goals and themselves, they will never put enough time and effort into developing something worth a thousand times more.
I don't have any real issues with women trying to go for a winner, heck we all want winners, We're animals at the end of the day and that's what animals do in the wild.
It's how we define what is a "winner", for me it's a woman that is self-sufficient, has a pleasant personality and is attractive. She doesn't have to be the hottest looking or whatever, it's the package.
I suspect that this isn't that kind of thread though.
Apparently, many people don't read the posts here with the the people (both men and women) who are with losers, but don't seem to want to or be able to let them go.
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