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Old 06-30-2016, 07:47 PM
 
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Do passive, nice guys ever like strong women?
I'm highly intelligent and very passionate about my beliefs. It's what enabled me to become a software engineer, even though I'm a female. However, I don't mind at all if someone doesn't agree with my beliefs. That's fine. I'm not controlling. I want someone to have their own hobbies and ideas and be independent because I'm independent too. But I will talk about my beliefs/ideas very passionately since I care a lot about them. And I like hearing the ideas of others, even if they're completely opposite, because I usually can learn something new.
I see this as a fun and constructive discussion, not an argument. But many people see it as arguing because they only ever want to make small talk, not discuss the deep and important stuff.

1) Because I have strong ideas, I cannot tolerate a dominate man in a dating relationship. Unless he happened to be extremely patient and respectful that I didn't agree with him, which is unlikely because dominate men are usually looking for a submissive female. They cannot handle being challenged like that by a dating partner. They might say they can, but it isn't true.

2) I like passive men because they are easy-going. That passive nature they have calms me down and provides balance. I can get very frustrated with the world in general because of all the stupid things people do to destroy themselves and the environment. But someone calm nearby can be a calming force on my passionate frustration. They know the world can't be changed, so there's no reason to get so worked up about it. It makes me relax naturally, rather than some dominate guy coming in and trying to make me submit thru force.

3) Frankly, I'm terrified to be myself around dominate men, especially if I'm attempting to date them. I'm terrified they'll rape or hurt me, try to control my every action, or just get angry with me and leave. I like the passive, nice guys, because I feel SAFE with them. I know they're too nice, they would never rape me or harm me.


4) I'm a virgin and religious, so I'd really like to wait until marriage. And when married, I take it very, very seriously. AKA marriage is forever. Divorce is not even an option in my book. That's why I would be extremely careful who I marry. In other words, I take dating seriously and would be extremely loyal. But I've seen a lot of men who prefer the girl who's slept around, just because she has a passive personality. They don't care about loyalty and honesty if her personality is too strong. I've also seen a lot of men prefer the overweight girl simply because she's passive. So even losing weight and getting in shape wasn't enough to offset my strong personality.


This is how I was born. I didn't plan or choose to have a passionate, strong personality. I've been this way since the very beginning as a kid. And my mom actually suggested I pretend to be more passive while dating. But I don't think that's the answer because you can only keep up a charade for so long. I don't think that's the way to a lasting relationship.

The major problem is I'm fishing in a very small pond, so there might still be hope that there's a passive guy out there that doesn't mind a strong personality.
I've had several nice guys who were happy to be friends, but pretty much made it clear they couldn't date me because I was too intense for them. They know I'm a good person, but I'm too intense for their easy-going personality. Intense as in I like to discuss deep topics. I don't talk about marriage.

Do passive, nice guys ever like strong women?
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:52 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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honestly, I don't think what you describe is a passive man....

A strong man can possess those same attributes.

In fact, you sound much like a female version of I... minus being the virgin (so far from it) and religious (I'm not). I"m even a software engineer. I always went for strong independent women but neither of us were ever dominant over the other....

Both my previous GF and my wife are what I considered strong women in different ways. So I think you are doing yourself a disservice by having a strict definition of the ideal mate would be and grouping them into this or that bucket.... each individual is an individual. Opportunites could be missed.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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In my experience, yes. I am a shy, studious (but attractive, or so I have been told) person and was always attracted to shy, studious types. Did they ever give me the time of day? No. I always lost out to strong, outgoing women, even in high school, even to my sister and best friend. I didn't understand it then, but I think a lot has to do with 'opposites attract'... The type of men who were attracted to me have always been the strong outgoing type.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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3) Frankly, I'm terrified to be myself around dominate men, especially if I'm attempting to date them. I'm terrified they'll rape or hurt me, try to control my every action, or just get angry with me and leave. I like the passive, nice guys, because I feel SAFE with them. I know they're too nice, they would never rape me or harm me.



What?!!!!!

You are confusing a type A personality for a criminal.


I'm a type A personality, one husband is also, my late husband was a type B.

All combos can work out.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:20 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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A man's propensity to rape isn't predicated by his outwardly dominant or passive personality.

Your ideas about relationship dynamics are quaint, though.

If you prefer a passive man, you're in luck - this forum is brimming with guys who are just waiting for you to approach them and take the wheel. They are actually insulted that most women expect them to approach. Stick around a little, they frequently start threads complaining about how they can't take rejection and want (exceptionally attractive) women to approach them instead.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: The point of no return, er, NorCal
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Some of the OP's ideas about relationships are... interesting. How old are you, OP?
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:37 PM
 
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A lot of assumptions in that post...
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:50 PM
 
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Yes, but those passive, shy guys tend to get treated like doormats!
You need to be assertive, maintain direct eye contact, and by all means speak your mind!

Also, pay attention to your posture. Women are not dumb. Your body language tells them more than you think.
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:31 PM
 
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yes
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Old 07-01-2016, 12:06 AM
 
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Passive men adore women that take the reigns,make all the decisions,it's saves them doing it which they don't enjoy.
But all you've really said its that you are passionate and opinionated men generally value this also.
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