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^^^there is that too. To survive out here many ppl have to work ridiculous hours. Some stay plugged in. Last couple guys who asked me out worked 6 days a week. One would pull 7 once a month with a 2nd pt job. It was pointless trying to schedule around that.
Which is why I could never work a job like that. My dating and social life would essentially be non-existent.
For me, OLD has worked MUCH better than IRL, and I have average looks, average height, and still in college.
OLD works for me too, but I never depended on it solely. IRL I get a chance to sell myself to a woman. For me, I like my odds better meeting in person, instead of hoping I get a response from an email. I also found that I had zero chance of meeting someone, who used old pics for their profile and misrepresented themselves. IRL, everything is better....of course just like OLD, maybe some prefer OLD because it allows editing of who they really are. Either way IMO if you want to meet people, IRL is the only way to go. OLD is great for numbers, but you will be competing with thousands of men....IRL people are shying away from traditional ways, and because of it, a useful skillset is becoming extinct as well.
The tech world makes it tough to date anywhere all of us have to work 50-60 hours and are on call tethered to our devices and unified communications all of the time. I ping my manager on Saturday and he does to our team as well. We travel on Sundays so where's the free time to date?
You know what though, so do all the women who have those very careers. Personally I would never sacrifice my social life and needs for some company, except for my own. If it's important enough, you will find a way to make things work. If you are into a woman, nothing will stop you from presenting yourself as a model boyfriend. Maybe years later when you share a place, you can go back to those 80 hour weeks.
I feel sorry for tech workers who work long ass hours worried that there are 200 people waiting to take your job. Making money but having no time to look for a nicer place or buy a car. Taking Uber because of it. Sacrificing your youth, while management reaps the rewards of your hard work. In the Bay Area they shuttle employees all over. They have gourmet chefs who make incredibly diverse meals which are available to whoever wants it. Wonderful perks to get people to work longer then they really should.
OLD works for me too, but I never depended on it solely. IRL I get a chance to sell myself to a woman. For me, I like my odds better meeting in person, instead of hoping I get a response from an email. I also found that I had zero chance of meeting someone, who used old pics for their profile and misrepresented themselves. IRL, everything is better....of course just like OLD, maybe some prefer OLD because it allows editing of who they really are. Either way IMO if you want to meet people, IRL is the only way to go. OLD is great for numbers, but you will be competing with thousands of men....IRL people are shying away from traditional ways, and because of it, a useful skillset is becoming extinct as well.
OLD hasn't led to a relationship for me (yet anyways), but I've at least gone out on dates with different women from it. With IRL, that has NEVER been the case (as of now anyways). I've never found women to really put completely misleading pics, or misrepresent themselves via OLD.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with doing both IRL and OLD (which I do), but for me, OLD has worked out much better with me. In IRL, it always seems the women I'm into are either already in a relationship/married, or aren't interested in me (or may not even be interested in dating anyone right now).
Which is why I could never work a job like that. My dating and social life would essentially be non-existent.
That's what you have to do if you want to survive in a prestigious ultra-competitive and very expensive city like San Fran. If someone just wants to work 40 hours have a slower life they're better off elsewhere.
That's what you have to do if you want to survive in a prestigious ultra-competitive and very expensive city like San Fran. If someone just wants to work 40 hours have a slower life they're better off elsewhere.
Truth.
And as a general note to folk not in the bay, most average tech jobs and non tech jobs don't pay well enough for many to live alone. Its weird dating men of a certain age who have 3-4 male roomies. Its uncomfy. I know for many of my friends, they won't date a man who can't live alone which is hard to find here since rents can run $2k+ for only a 1bdr.
So it's not only lack of social time, it can be lack of privacy. Women don't like hanging out with some guy and his multiple guy roomies alone.
How old are you, op? You have roomies? That could be part of it, if that's true.
And as a general note to folk not in the bay, most average tech jobs and non tech jobs don't pay well enough for many to live alone. Its weird dating men of a certain age who have 3-4 male roomies. Its uncomfy. I know for many of my friends, they won't date a man who can't live alone which is hard to find here since rents can run $2k+ for only a 1bdr.
So it's not only lack of social time, it can be lack of privacy. Women don't like hanging out with some guy and his multiple guy roomies alone.
How old are you, op? You have roomies? That could be part of it, if that's true.
Do your friends have their own places?
If not, it's definitely sort of hypocritical on their part, in my opinion. I'm sure at least most of those guys would prefer having their own place, but the rents are just ridiculous expensive nowadays (for even a 1 bdr like you said).
OLD works for me too, but I never depended on it solely. IRL I get a chance to sell myself to a woman. For me, I like my odds better meeting in person, instead of hoping I get a response from an email. I also found that I had zero chance of meeting someone, who used old pics for their profile and misrepresented themselves. IRL, everything is better....of course just like OLD, maybe some prefer OLD because it allows editing of who they really are. Either way IMO if you want to meet people, IRL is the only way to go. OLD is great for numbers, but you will be competing with thousands of men....IRL people are shying away from traditional ways, and because of it, a useful skillset is becoming extinct as well.
That's the case, pretty much. Your phrases can be carefully thought through, your best photos can be chosen, and she can't hear you farting .
Boy, am I glad I was done with all that well before OLD....
If not, it's definitely sort of hypocritical on their part, in my opinion. I'm sure at least most of those guys would prefer having their own place, but the rents are just ridiculous expensive nowadays (for even a 1 bdr like you said).
Women have other worries. Safety--something men don't generally think about when visiting a house with a couple of women. One woman alone in a house full of men? Some take pause. Some have had... experiences. So on the surface it might look hypocritical but there can be more to it.
Women have other worries. Safety--something men don't generally think about...
We don't?
Most violent crimes perpetrated against men are... well... by other men.
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. So on the surface it might look hypocritical but there can be more to it.
