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I think this thread is getting surreal when men get angry that their parents didn't tell them how to get their GF off. Seriously? My parents were even less forthcoming than most about 'stuff' and I still managed to figure it out. Take some responsibility for Pete's sake. If you are a lousy lover the fault is YOURS. Fixing the problem is YOUR assignment. There is information out there from reputable sources. Find them. Use them.
Pornography addiction is the biggest problem facing men in our country. However, nobody wants to address it. Men don't want to address it, because that don't believe they are addicted, or have normalized it to the point that they don't care if they are addicted. Churches won't touch the topic, because it's naughty, and they don't want to admit and deal with the fact that many in their congregation (including many Pastors) have a problem. Parents are too afraid to have their children be mad at them for monitoring or denying them use of the internet. Therefore, since our nation wants to bury it's collective head in the sand, the issue only grows.
Churches won't touch the topic?? Really? Churches are all over porn, period. They don't even wait till it becomes a problem. They get out in front of the porn problem on the radio, from the pulpit and in hand-out literature. But that said, it isn't Porn that is the biggest problem facing America. I couldn't exactly tell you what is, but I would put Porn Addiction way, way down in the stack of problems and issues facing America
I think this thread is getting surreal when men get angry that their parents didn't tell them how to get their GF off. Seriously? My parents were even less forthcoming than most about 'stuff' and I still managed to figure it out. Take some responsibility for Pete's sake. If you are a lousy lover the fault is YOURS. Fixing the problem is YOUR assignment. There is information out there from reputable sources. Find them. Use them.
I don't think it's about asking parents to draw a diagram or lead a Kama Sutra lesson, rather, parents instill a positive attitude about intimacy, connection, sex, communication, appreciation and respect for one's partners, which includes mutual pleasure. This is key. It isn't about just getting yours, it *is* about mutual pleasure and intimacy.
And there are tons of men who haven't a clue what they're doing, so yeah, the frustrations are pretty apt. No amount of porn, locker room talk, etc., etc., fixed whatever it is they're lacking, but there are those who think both qualify as adequate lessons on how to be a good lover. They're not.
Settle down Jimmy yeah parents can do better they can't watch their kids 24/7 though. Part of the problem is the single parent epidemic. The onslaught of subtle messages from pop culture and so on can be very powerful on the young mind. The US culture is a pretty big pile of garbage now so it's no wonder we have the little de-evolved hellspawns running around everywhere.
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I think this thread is getting surreal when men get angry that their parents didn't tell them how to get their GF off. Seriously? My parents were even less forthcoming than most about 'stuff' and I still managed to figure it out. Take some responsibility for Pete's sake. If you are a lousy lover the fault is YOURS. Fixing the problem is YOUR assignment. There is information out there from reputable sources. Find them. Use them.
I don't get the overanalysis on the subject I always just ask her what she likes no one's a mind reader. That's one reason I like long term relationships and not sleeping around much easier and less stressful, more rewarding.
I don't really like shallow floozies that are the type that nit pick a guy about everything and compare them to their hundreds of other one night stands. That's quite often liberal feminist type women.
I'm not saying I agree with the poster you quoted but I can definitely see where he is coming from on the aura of the women vs men "mentality." There is a population of women out there that seen men as public enemy #1 and get their kicks out oh humiliating and berating men just for being men. This is one example, where women get mad at men for biological sexual needs.
But I don't. I don't persoanlly hear any of it in real life from women. Just here, where some men tell us how women really are.
I'm a woman. That's why I notice the stereotyping.
I'm not saying I agree with the poster you quoted but I can definitely see where he is coming from on the aura of the women vs men "mentality." There is a population of women out there that seen men as public enemy #1 and get their kicks out oh humiliating and berating men just for being men. This is one example, where women get mad at men for biological sexual needs.
And some of them are on this forum. It isn't our fault that they pick men that can't satisfy them sexually.
I don't think it's about asking parents to draw a diagram or lead a Kama Sutra lesson, rather, parents instill a positive attitude about intimacy, connection, sex, communication, appreciation and respect for one's partners, which includes mutual pleasure. This is key. It isn't about just getting yours, it *is* about mutual pleasure and intimacy.
Yup.
In my opinion, the lesson for kids today, in the time of ubiquitous internet porn, is really no different than when I was growing up, back in the days when porn was found in magazines and late-night cable television.
Porn =/= reality.
Porn is out there. Hiding one's head in the sand isn't going to change that immutable fact.
So, what's a parent to do? "Instill a positive attitude about intimacy, connection, sex, communication, appreciation and respect for one's partners, which includes mutual pleasure".
Your kids are going to be exposed to this stuff. They were decades ago, they are now, and they will be in the future. Why not take the opportunity to speak to them about it? Heck, it seems to me to be a perfect jumping off point for "the talk".
IMO, lesson one should include letting the kids know that no one, at any point in history, has died from lack of sex or "blue balls".
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But I don't. I don't persoanlly hear any of it in real life from women. Just here, where some men tell us how women really are.
I'm a woman. That's why I notice the stereotyping.
Just because you don't notice it doesn't mean it don't happen. I'm a man so I will notice stereotyping about men.
Just because you don't notice it doesn't mean it don't happen. I'm a man so I will notice stereotyping about men.
Right, thats all I meant. If I'm not noticing it then I really cant feel like it's a significant enough amount to classify as "this is how women think." And you would agree men aren't all the same with the same us vs them agenda. I hope.
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