Why do people think that the film "Fifty Shades of Grey" doesn't accurately portray the D/s lifestyle? (wife, gay)
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Originally Posted by Dport7674
Hate it so much but spend a lot of time thinking about it, huh?
Ya know, just because I'm posting in my thread about something that bothers me and that I think is dangerous and sick, doesn't mean that I "spend a lot of time thinking about it". Your post reeks of you alluding to me thinking about this "a lot" because I "like it" or something. Give me a break. Go and write douchey posts to someone else who actually gives an ish.
If you have a person A which is suffering from mental illness (in which also bdsm was labelled in ICD before) who is asking to harm her/himself is it really ok to do that?
Or is there some responsibility in this person B which declines to support persons A self harming obsessions? Why person B should be a tool how person A is able to harm herself?
Person B could just take consider that person A is mentally ill (according to ICD-history) and say no.
Person B cannot wash his or her hands because the person who is committing this harming to this mental ill person A is person B and person B only.
People can ask this and that but everyone are still responsible of their own actions.
Mentally ill person cannot estimate what is healthy for her or him. That is why the sane person has to estimate situation for her or him. It is not "whatever" when this person is not sane enough.
(And bdsm can be settled back into ICD any day as it was in there already).
If you know HC at all, you know it was a joke. Reel it in a bit.
What is it about this particular movie that seems to really bother a lot of people
For me, it's because the series was written by someone who was writing fanfic, very badly, and just happened to know someone that got the book published.
I couldn't get past the third chapter because the author wrote like a teenager with her "Jeez" talk.
Hell, she couldn't even bring herself to say "vagina" and called it, "down there".
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Originally Posted by FlowerDarling
I hope your smh helped you to understand better.
If you have a person A which is suffering from mental illness (in which also bdsm was labelled in ICD before) who is asking to harm her/himself is it really ok to do that?
Or is there some responsibility in this person B which declines to support persons A self harming obsessions? Why person B should be a tool how person A is able to harm herself?
Person B could just take consider that person A is mentally ill (according to ICD-history) and say no.
Person B cannot wash his or her hands because the person who is committing this harming to this mental ill person A is person B and person B only.
People can ask this and that but everyone are still responsible of their own actions.
Mentally ill person cannot estimate what is healthy for her or him. That is why the sane person has to estimate situation for her or him. It is not "whatever" when this person is not sane enough.
(And bdsm can be settled back into ICD any day as it was in there already).
But see, here's the thing FD. Just as with anything that is depraved, mentally unbalanced or just plain wrong, society is trying (and has succeeded) to normalize it. Just as anal sex, choking/strangulation and bdsm have been normalized...and is now seen as something "normal", "terrific" and "consensual" for people to do to each other.
And, for anyone who actually participates in "pretending" to harm someone - as is such during supposed "role playing" of a guy choking the oxygen out of a woman because she tells him it turns her on - that person is definitely part of the problem and they're also part of perpetuating the sickness that the emotionally and mentally damaged person suffers from.
Of course, this is my opinion only. There are many people out there who think these things are "normal" and "fun", and there's nothing anyone can do about that. The only thing that normal and emotionally/mentally healthy people can do is to STAY AWAY from abnormal people like that and let them find others like themselves to engage in these sick kind of sexual situations and "role playing". To each their own.
But see, here's the thing FD. Just as with anything that is depraved, mentally unbalanced or just plain wrong, society is trying (and has succeeded) to normalize it. Just as anal sex, choking/strangulation and bdsm have been normalized...and is now seen as something "normal", "terrific" and "consensual" for people to do to each other.
And, for anyone who actually participates in "pretending" to harm someone - as is such during supposed "role playing" of a guy choking the oxygen out of a woman because she tells him it turns her on - that person is definitely part of the problem and they're also part of perpetuating the sickness that the emotionally and mentally damaged person suffers from.
Of course, this is my opinion only. There are many people out there who think these things are "normal" and "fun", and there's nothing anyone can do about that. The only thing that normal and emotionally/mentally healthy people can do is to STAY AWAY from abnormal people like that and let them find others like themselves to engage in these sick kind of sexual situations and "role playing". To each their own.
Yes AF
And I think that especially for young people it is really important to talk about sex preferences with their catches before having sex. Then they will have a chance to stay away from those people
My big issue with 50 Shades craze is that women spent forever, until only a few decades ago in this country, being submissive! We fought to end that. And now it's like men want to pull a trick to get us to WANT to go back to that. Now, that is supposed to be hot and sexy. Well, it isn't to me. I mean, kudos on the trick, but no for me. .
Female author, female readership. It's women that bought the book. We can't get the blame for women buying 50 shades in their millions.
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Originally Posted by MinivanDriver
I found it on a bookshelf of a beach house we were renting and read about fifty pages before realizing what absurdist crap it was. It wasn't even well-written erotica.
By the way, here's my inconvenient question to those of you who find FSOG arousing. If Christian Grey had been a college dropout clerking at a gas station, would it make it just as hot to you? Same looks, same build, but he dominates the heroine in a doublewide after his shift is over, rather than the penthouse of his high rise. With that little change of scenery, would they still be best sellers? Or does the fact that it's a billionaire abasing this woman that makes readers such as you so hot?
It's all about hypergamy. If the guy worked at Mcdonalds it wouldn't have sold a single copy.
If you have a person A which is suffering from mental illness (in which also bdsm was labelled in ICD before) who is asking to harm her/himself is it really ok to do that?
Or is there some responsibility in this person B which declines to support persons A self harming obsessions? Why person B should be a tool how person A is able to harm herself?
Person B could just take consider that person A is mentally ill (according to ICD-history) and say no.
Person B cannot wash his or her hands because the person who is committing this harming to this mental ill person A is person B and person B only.
People can ask this and that but everyone are still responsible of their own actions.
Mentally ill person cannot estimate what is healthy for her or him. That is why the sane person has to estimate situation for her or him. It is not "whatever" when this person is not sane enough.
(And bdsm can be settled back into ICD any day as it was in there already).
I never claimed I or the women I "gently" choked are sane people
On a serious note: The last woman I choked (very gently btw) is a highly educated professional and far from mentally unstable. I don't purposely go out and find woman in straitjackets, Lol.
I personally, don't think a gentle loving choke here and there during sex is a bad thing, compared to some couples that get off playing tic-tac-toe on their bodies with razors.
But whatever, gurl. I understand respect your opinion.
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I don't find light choking weird or odd at all, but then again, it's my kind of kink. *shrug* Of course open communication and discussion of boundaries is important before engaging in such activities.
And safe words/signals, esp with people you're new with.
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For me, it's because the series was written by someone who was writing fanfic, very badly, and just happened to know someone that got the book published.
I couldn't get past the third chapter because the author wrote like a teenager with her "Jeez" talk.
Hell, she couldn't even bring herself to say "vagina" and called it, "down there".
I threw the book out.
I applaud you for even reading any part of the book! You're a unicorn lol
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Go and write douchey posts to someone else who actually gives an ish. 
