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Old 06-08-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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I was talking to one of our younger men in the apt bldg and asked his age and he said 46....I rolled my eyes and said "what about marriage"...he's in his second serious relationship now and she's pushing for marriage as she wants a baby. She fears she'll regret it if she doesn't produce a child. She's 36.

He just can't go with that same thinking and says we have enough people in the world now, too many.

We have another nice 40ish fellow here and he's in a relationship but not gunhoe on marriage either.

I told the first fellow, marriage is not just a word, but as I heard this from someone years ago...it's a Sentence. Easier to get in than get out.

Then there is George C a father of twins at 56....first time dad. He will be 76 when his kids are 20.

With all their money, they can do anything and have help for life.

Any comments here...
Any woman I have been in a relationship with, who sprung this on me, would be gone, pronto.

Baby rabies - no thanks.

George Clooney could be reduced to less than 1% of his current net worth and would still be quite rich, and he could "work" some more if he wanted. Me, not so much.

 
Old 06-08-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Have you ever been married, gotten divorced, and lost all those things people cry about in the internet?

And homeless because of a divorce? c'mon man Lol
Not homeless.. But a former coworker of mine lost enough in divorce court that he had to move into his parent's basement. ExWife lived in their very nice house. 2 kids on the older side. She also worked.

It was shortly before a lot of layoffs in the tech field and the judge refused to adjust alimony to match his current (way underpaid) salary. According to him, the judge literally said "You are not trying hard enough." when he pleaded with him.

He is one of the two cases I've seen personally that really scared the crap out of me.

The other lost almost everything (SAHW). She took the house, rented it out, and moved to her native country; living off of the proceeds.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Not homeless.. But a former coworker of mine lost enough in divorce court that he had to move into his parent's basement. ExWife lived in their very nice house. 2 kids on the older side. She also worked.

It was shortly before a lot of layoffs in the tech field and the judge refused to adjust alimony to match his current (way underpaid) salary. According to him, the judge literally said "You are not trying hard enough." when he pleaded with him.

He is one of the two cases I've seen personally that really scared the crap out of me.

The other lost almost everything (SAHW). She took the house, rented it out, and moved to her native country; living off of the proceeds.
I doubt, divorce court forced him into his parents basement, while the ex spouse got everything else. I think, there was other things at play .i.e unemployment.

Sure, I have no doubt the courts are slightly skewed in favoring women (especially with children involved) but not enough to send someone pushing a shopping cart down the street, homeless, and begging for money, as some guys claim (who has never been married and divorced).
 
Old 06-08-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I agree that courts tend to favor women. I do think it needs to change - maybe in the same amount of time that the courts favored men in divorces? You all got about another century....

No. I think it should be changed now to be fair.

I know a guy that got back together with his exwife. I believe he cited we are all the same and he would save money....
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Old 06-08-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I doubt, divorce court forced him into his parents basement, while the ex spouse got everything else. I think, there was other things at play .i.e unemployment.

Sure, I have no doubt the courts are slightly skewed in favoring women (especially with children involved) but not enough to send someone pushing a shopping cart down the street, homeless, and begging for money, as some guys claim (who has never been married and divorced).
That, and where was this guy's lawyer to protect his client? Anecdotally, I've heard that many men sign whatever's put in front of them and don't ask or advocate for themselves. Don't agree to a settlement that screws you over.

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Old 06-08-2017, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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That, and where was this guy's lawyer to protect his client? Anecdotally, I've heard that many men sign whatever's put in front of them and don't ask or advocate for themselves. Don't agree to a settelment that screws you over.
My husband did that.

He told her he wanted (small amount of equity), took the bills and high tailed it out. He said it wasn't worth the arguments and he could always make more money.
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Old 06-08-2017, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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That, and where was this guy's lawyer to protect his client? Anecdotally, I've heard that many men sign whatever's put in front of them and don't ask or advocate for themselves. Don't agree to a settelment that screws you over.
And some men, simply don't show up to court. I know of a relative that was so bitter and angry he brushed it off and didn't show up to court. The ex wife was award whatever she wanted, and then some. My cousin complained he got shafted in court

No brah, you shafted yourself, idiot.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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And some men, simply don't show up to court. I know of a relative that was so bitter and angry he brushed it off and didn't show up to court. The ex wife was award whatever she wanted, and then some. My cousin complained he got shafted in court

No brah, you shafted yourself, idiot.
That dude only has himself to blame. No disrespect of course.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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My husband did that.

He told her he wanted (small amount of equity), took the bills and high tailed it out. He said it wasn't worth the arguments and he could always make more money.
When battling what you feel is fair to you with someone who thinks otherwise goes on long enough and involves court dates legal fees, lawyers and legal filings all you want is to make it go away and focus on the future.

It can become less about what you feel is right and more about just making it disappear from your life.

Money doesn't last forever, a stubborn legal battle can quickly drain you in filing fees alone.

People forget it actually costs you to challenge people back or defend your position, It's not just one side who has to pay out.

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Old 06-08-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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And then there are the men (my ex) who take their half of the settlement ($50K) and put it down on a huge $500K house for his girlfriend, acquire 3 mortgages, and finally walk away from it 10 years later, $200K under water. Idiots!

Some men are better off with nothing
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