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Old 10-13-2017, 07:04 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Is this another case of an inexperienced guy trying to use binary logic to understand women and relationships?

Why is this so common on this forum? I never see guys act like this in real life.


I obviously don't know what experience people here have, or haven't had, in relationships in reality.


But the one thing that screams to me over and over with so many of the posts where people try to use binary logic, or to distill relationships and male/female interactions to pseudo science/economic equations, is that they've clearly never been in love. It's that simple. They've never fallen in love and had that person be in love with them. I don't mean care about someone, or like someone, or been attracted to someone, or been in a relationship with someone.


But they've never been in love with someone (or at least they forget what it is like).
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:05 AM
 
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If its the exact same guy, there can't be two people to choose from, by definition. And even if it were two people with the same list of exact traits and features, the emotional connection and chemistry with them is never the "exact same".


You're trying to make this into an economics example with "all other features being equal" to show changes to actions/reactions based on modifying of a couple of criteria on an axis. That doesn't work with interpersonal relationships at all. It fundamentally misunderstands human dynamics.
K. Again, I'm not gonna get into the weeds over a hypothetical but knock yourselves out.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:07 AM
 
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I obviously don't know what experience people here have, or haven't had, in relationships in reality.


But the one thing that screams to me over and over with so many of the posts where people try to use binary logic, or to distill relationships and male/female interactions to pseudo science/economic equations, is that they've clearly never been in love. It's that simple. They've never fallen in love and had that person be in love with them. I don't mean care about someone, or like someone, or been attracted to someone, or been in a relationship with someone.


But they've never been in love with someone (or at least they forget what it is like).
That's a bold statement Cotton
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:43 AM
 
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I'm far from inexperienced and I already walked away from the example. Jesus lady calm down.
You have an interesting way of not arguing and walking away... but back to your theory. It's not 'just words' when somebody says money and status are not the most important thing. A better example would have been choosing somebody you're attracted to, who has the qualities you're looking for, that don't include money and status versus somebody with money and status.

No, women aren't all about money. You may be, that might be why it's hard for you to understand this, or you haven't met enough women to know any better.
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Old 10-13-2017, 07:58 AM
 
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You have an interesting way of not arguing and walking away... .

This is odd, really, coming from you. I normally defend my positions as best I can. But I think you know this and you're simply creating a pressure flip here. You rarely defend a position and I always call you out for it, but here you're accusing me of it. Slick.


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but back to your theory. It's not 'just words' when somebody says money and status are not the most important thing. A better example would have been choosing somebody you're attracted to, who has the qualities you're looking for, that don't include money and status versus somebody with money and status..

My theory is not a theory and money and status can be two different things. Status is important to a man's attractiveness, whether it be social or monetary, period. People will say they don't care to look good, but that's transparent in my opinion.



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No, women aren't all about money..

Never claimed they were. Not once, not ever


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You may be, that might be why it's hard for you to understand this
or you haven't met enough women to know any better
Well admittedly I do value success and I am ambitious, but I would hardly say I am all about money. As for your last comment, such a personal attack is against the TOS and not worth responding to.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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This is odd, really, coming from you. I normally defend my positions as best I can. But I think you know this and you're simply creating a pressure flip here. You rarely defend a position and I always call you out for it, but here you're accusing me of it. Slick.





My theory is not a theory and money and status can be two different things. Status is important to a man's attractiveness, whether it be social or monetary, period. People will say they don't care to look good, but that's transparent in my opinion.






Never claimed they were. Not once, not ever




Well admittedly I do value success and I am ambitious, but I would hardly say I am all about money. As for your last comment, such a personal attack is against the TOS and not worth responding to.
If you're going to change your original 2 point post from what WOMEN think, to what 'your opinion' is on what PEOPLE think, then there is no disagreement.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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If you're going to change your original 2 point post from what WOMEN think, to what 'your opinion' is on what PEOPLE think, then there is no disagreement.
Lol my original two point post is unedited and does say people in general.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:18 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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My theory is not a theory and money and status can be two different things. Status is important to a man's attractiveness, whether it be social or monetary, period. People will say they don't care to look good, but that's transparent in my opinion. .


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Old 10-13-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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I was responding to this: "Saying you just want a happy go lucky guy, money and status aside, sounds great. But in reality if you had the choice between the exact same guy but one had a higher level of status and resources, it's human nature to pick the more successful one. Words are just words."

It infers someone's saying they want a happy go lucky GUY but those are just words, they want status and money.

I thought you were referring to women who want guys. I was saying this is not true as a blanket statement.

"LOL"--There is nothing else to add.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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Should have put quotes. I meant I was not theorizing
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