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Yes he does . Please refer back to my previous statements for my opinion and some of the harm I’ve seen, which I did list in brief on the post from 11:44.
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You get the fun of missing out on a variety. You also get the fun of not knowing whether or not the sex is good because you have no frame of reference.
Oh, I don't think you need a frame of reference to know whether or not you had a good time.
That being said, I don't see many advantages of waiting for marriage to have sex outside of mitigating health risks.
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It was here:
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Originally Posted by Schmooky
I understand your point and, thinking it over, it would have only been a burden if I felt guilty about it, if he cared or made an issue of it, or something similar. None of that happened. I felt no guilt or shame, but it was a choice I would have taken back if I had a time machine. No good came of it or those relationships, even the really good ones. They were just to no benefit and I’d have been happier remaining friends with every single one of those people; though at the time romance sounded more exciting.
My husband didn’t even ask about my relationship history, I’m the one who brought it up. He also didn’t ask if I was a virgin, I asked HIM. So maybe it would have been different if he was the experienced one, but that’s not a deal breaker for me and never has been.
Sex outside of marriage, or at least a committed relationship for the theistically uninclined, is something I came to take issue with from a standpoint of experience and time. The theological arguments didn’t really hold weight until later, even though I was aware of them. And watching my friends in high school and college I can’t say I saw any real good on their ends either. Pregnancies, drama and jealousy, heartache, STDs, depression? Yeah, I’ve seen those. And a few people who seemed happy and content with or without sexual companions, though now with a decade or so of time elapsed I can see more issues popping up with them too.
I was genuinely curious as to what defensible benefits could be stated. I have found and seen pretty much none outside of fun and gratification, and any arguments about fulfillment and improved intimacy I could poke a hole in with a jello stick. I’ll grant the people saying them believe them, but nwn’s capacity for self deception is nearly limitless (and on that I also speak from both observational and personal experience, though scripture supports it too).
Figured I'd point at it, since she's gone to care for her kiddos. She's seen some of the negative outcomes. Personally I would argue that the promiscuity was more a symptom than a cause and there were bigger problems writing the life script for those people she has known. But I can't say, I don't know them myself.
I disagree with Schmooky on the subject at hand, but she's right about one thing...neither of us (nor you) is going to bend our thinking no matter how persuasive the argument. That isn't how these things work. I don't mind sharing (and indeed, OVERsharing) my own experience and perspective, but I'm not gonna bait her. Not here for that.
Oh, I don't think you need a frame of reference to know whether or not you had a good time.
That being said, I don't see many advantages of waiting for marriage to have sex outside of mitigating health risks.
Yeah, the health risks are definitely a factor. When I much younger that played a much less of a role in my thinking, but as I've gotten older yeah, definitely a thing.
Some young people can be silly.
I never prized virginity in me or the girls I was interested in.
I disagree with Schmooky on the subject at hand, but she's right about one thing...neither of us (nor you) is going to bend our thinking no matter how persuasive the argument. That isn't how these things work. I don't mind sharing (and indeed, OVERsharing) my own experience and perspective, but I'm not gonna bait her. Not here for that.
It has happened and many of us hope it will happen, that some just might decide their inflexible attitudes might not be the path to follow.
What comes to mind is people a lot of us have known that are adamantly ( often religiously)opposed and critical of homosexuals.......until they have a child that is .
Even "Good Christians" don't agree on right versus wrong so it can be instrumental for anyone with inflexible attitudes to be given the chance to stop and examine their own attitudes and the real "why" of them.
Some will, some will just dig their heels in the ground. We never ...or seldom know...which will do what.
I'm married, but I'm going to try for defilement tonight!!
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No good reasons to wait. I didn't get "deflowered" until ridiculously later in life because I was raised in a cult. Get it over sooner than later. I viewed my virginity as punishment after a certain age!
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