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I dunno, I think getting a grand for a minute, or an hour, or even an afternoon, would be pretty nice.
On the one hand, I feel like it's an odd notion, though, because I enjoy sex. Full stop, I think sex is nice. So I don't see me "giving it up" as a woman, to be a commodity like that. I feel like two people are sharing a thing that is, in theory, pretty good for both. Optimally, at least.
Though as I've said before, I've had partners who were better, a couple of them that were amazing, a couple that were really bad, but most were just basically a good time. If I had fun, and he had fun, then why would he need to pay me? So on that level, it's weird.
I do recall someone saying...wish I could remember who said this, if it's a famous quote and anyone knows, fill me in here...that you don't pay a prostitute to have sex with you, you pay her to go home afterwards and leave you alone. I suppose I can understand that logic somewhat. Though I feel like if I didn't want to actually interact with a person, I'd just take care of it myself. I mean...five minutes, zero cost...that seems like "efficiency" to me.
I do recall someone saying...wish I could remember who said this, if it's a famous quote and anyone knows, fill me in here...that you don't pay a prostitute to have sex with you, you pay her to go home afterwards and leave you alone. I suppose I can understand that logic somewhat. Though I feel like if I didn't want to actually interact with a person, I'd just take care of it myself. I mean...five minutes, zero cost...that seems like "efficiency" to me.
Its a saying that has been around for a long time. Became well known when Charlie sheen used it during his trial.
"I don't pay prostitutes for sex, I pay them to leave".
It is a very accurate statement. Sex in that world is a commodity to be sold.. many women do make a lot of money.. most don't. A woman can pretty easily find a lover for "just sex". If it is important to you (mutual enjoyment) it is understandable that selling as a commodity would marginalize it and is a big turnoff. Sex work isn't like having sex for fun.. it really is WORK.... very HARD WORK.
btw... Escort agencies typical take is 60/40. 60% for the lady and 40% for the agency. 500-1500 rate is what I've seen. For one agency I know that is known for porn stars escorting, it is as high as 50/50 in the few grand going rate but that's not the norm. Most aren't making $1000 an hour... not even close. Keep in mind too that some will go through dry spells with little business AND there is an expiration date to this work. You have to start planning your "Exit" as soon as you start escorting/prostituting...
Just use craigslist. It's easier than you think. Outside of their perception of your looks, it helps to show some intelligence in your responses.
I've had several women respond to me, but I've never actually taken the next step. The farthest I've gone was talking to a girl on the phone, which was a mistake, but I've always came to my senses before going any farther.
You have to understand that a lot of women who respond usually have a secret, which is that they are married or in a relationship. Personally, I just don't want to deal with that.
You know what's crazy?
I always speak out about how atheists have no foundation for morality. Recently, I was sending messages to this female for some reason. I don't even know why I do this. Maybe I just need validation, but you know, I found myself in a situation where all these images of women were in my head, so instead of just relieving myself, I decided to see what would happen if I responded to this female in a revealing outfit.
(I don't know why I do this. It's a problem.)
So she responds and she's interested, and honestly, I'm ready to go. We were all ready to meet up and I'm sure that even though the premise was friendship, that I would have slipped up and made a mistake.
Worse, the girl was married too. Thankfully, her husband came home and her plans changed.
So finally, I relieved myself (which is something I would recommend to all men that find themselves in this situation) and I came to my senses and realized how stupid I was in even engaging in this conversation with a married women. So I texted her something along the lines that I apologized for the person that I am, because I'm not the person that I should be. I also said something about how I disappointed God or something like that.
Anyway, she responds through email that I should seek out pleasure and that I should be my own God. You see. Just like I've been saying. Without God, there is no foundation.
I don't know why I even brought this up, but it just seemed relevant. Whatever. Don't care.
I dunno, I think getting a grand for a minute, or an hour, or even an afternoon, would be pretty nice.
On the one hand, I feel like it's an odd notion, though, because I enjoy sex. Full stop, I think sex is nice. So I don't see me "giving it up" as a woman, to be a commodity like that. I feel like two people are sharing a thing that is, in theory, pretty good for both. Optimally, at least.
Though as I've said before, I've had partners who were better, a couple of them that were amazing, a couple that were really bad, but most were just basically a good time. If I had fun, and he had fun, then why would he need to pay me? So on that level, it's weird.
I do recall someone saying...wish I could remember who said this, if it's a famous quote and anyone knows, fill me in here...that you don't pay a prostitute to have sex with you, you pay her to go home afterwards and leave you alone. I suppose I can understand that logic somewhat. Though I feel like if I didn't want to actually interact with a person, I'd just take care of it myself. I mean...five minutes, zero cost...that seems like "efficiency" to me.
I was joking that the guy was efficient, getting done in a minute. Like that's good. Or something.
To your other point, and here's too much information, but a man lasting can be too much of a good thing. For everyone involved. So my partner and I have a dynamic where she gets there as often as I do, or more often. I kind of get where women are coming from (tee hee) because my orgasm sometimes becomes this project we both focus on, way too much. She feels worse than I do on the rare occasions it doesn't happen, much the way men do when a woman doesn't get off. Like it's a reflection on their skill or desirability. I think I'm just old. I also think we both try too hard sometimes, which doesn't help and adds a little anxiety to the mix. Always good in the bedroom.
How this is relevant is that even when I don't get there, I have a good time with her. We have a good time. In another thread someone made the inane comment that for men, sex is like pizza, and even bad pizza is pretty good. And I replied that I've had some pretty crappy pizza. I've had sex where everyone had an orgasm and it was still bad for me. Probably her too. Like you, I can take care of myself just fine, so that's really not what the other person brings to the experience.
I was joking that the guy was efficient, getting done in a minute. Like that's good. Or something.
To your other point, and here's too much information, but a man lasting can be too much of a good thing. For everyone involved. So my partner and I have a dynamic where she gets there as often as I do, or more often. I kind of get where women are coming from (tee hee) because my orgasm sometimes becomes this project we both focus on, way too much. She feels worse than I do on the rare occasions it doesn't happen, much the way men do when a woman doesn't get off. Like it's a reflection on their skill or desirability. I think I'm just old. I also think we both try too hard sometimes, which doesn't help and adds a little anxiety to the mix. Always good in the bedroom.
How this is relevant is that even when I don't get there, I have a good time with her. We have a good time. In another thread someone made the inane comment that for men, sex is like pizza, and even bad pizza is pretty good. And I replied that I've had some pretty crappy pizza. I've had sex where everyone had an orgasm and it was still bad for me. Probably her too. Like you, I can take care of myself just fine, so that's really not what the other person brings to the experience.
Yeah, well...if we're gonna stray into this flavor of TMI, I feel like I've got a bizarre kind of karmic reversal going on right now. My whole life, I had male partners and situations where I knew it was over, when he was done. And even if I didn't get there, I typically had an enjoyable experience...and I often did not finish, but it was all good. Mostly in my teenage youth. As I got older, I learned how to push my own (mostly mental) buttons better and my enjoyment somewhat increased, at least physically, yet even if my body did what it was supposed to, I can't say (like with my ex) that I always had a very enjoyable experience every time.
How and whether one truly enjoys sex is definitely about more than the um...big finale.
But now? Yeah, old dude, and habituation to certain stimuli in life, and whatever, but he can knock my socks off in 100 different ways (actually six--I've counted six distinct kinds of O's I can experience thus far with him, all totally different) and he's off the charts better for me than any other person I've been with yet. But he does not typically finish. It's over when I tap out.
Is that better? I don't think so. I wish he would get his. I have struggled with needing some reassurance that he's really enjoying himself (he says yes, yes absolutely he is) and that he's happy with me and us (again, yes)... And it's the one and only thing I miss, one other partner from my past would get about 20 minutes in, finish, recovery time with good snuggles and music and all was wonderful, and he'd be ready for more. 2 or 3 sessions like that. That pacing was comfortable. I miss that about him. But not enough to try and go back to poly or try to reconnect, just enough to remember fondly. It's one very small "I wish" when 99% of my relationship right now is perfect, so I can't complain.
But there, in that experience with that man, is a relevant point though. Because he was the FB. And with the exception of the one I'm with now, also the best lover I'd had, and memorable as a person I really enjoyed in my life for a time. Some women think that greater enjoyment comes always from having this deep connection and serious relationship...my experiences say otherwise. Sometimes a gem can be found in a casual connection, IF the guy is not so shallow and...what, young? I don't know...that he approaches sex selfishly. You don't have to be madly in love to approach the act creatively and expressively, even if you're a guy. And at the same time, a relationship isn't a guarantee of great sex, either. Plenty of marriages end up either sexless, or featuring bland, infrequent, cursory lovemaking.
I certainly don't know for certain, but I'm fairly confident that you wouldn't offer the same "advice" to a woman who was looking for a male for a FWB situation.
Why not?
O_o guys are easy, she wouldn't even need the money, a case of beer or a pizza would probably get him over
Been on there for two months and haven’t gotten any matches
Have a look at your profile. What you say could nake all the difference. I got a fair number of approaches based solely in my profile. Having an appealing photo would help too.
Photo's are a problem since you can't change your face but choose one that does you justice.
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