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The whole paternity test subject came up because someone earlier in the thread mentioned the fact that men have the means to discover paternity using a paternity test. The counter point is that yes there is the physical means to do that, but doing so will mean the end of the relationship with the mother. So far nothing the women in this thread are saying contradicts that counter point. Now he can get the test done behind the mother's back without telling her. I'm guessing the mother would also flip her lid if she somehow found out he did it behind her back, but if she doesn't find out...I guess if women get to have their secrets, men get to have theirs as well.
Legally, there would have to be a third party present and willing to vouch for sample collection etc. Because of this, it rarely happens legally as this hurdle was created for this very purpose. I cant get over the fact though, that otherwise reasonable people are so against the truth, even though it impacts lives of those involved, in a major way.
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The whole paternity test subject came up because someone earlier in the thread mentioned the fact that men have the means to discover paternity using a paternity test. The counter point is that yes there is the physical means to do that, but doing so will mean the end of the relationship with the mother. So far nothing the women in this thread are saying contradicts that counter point. Now he can get the test done behind the mother's back without telling her. I'm guessing the mother would also flip her lid if she somehow found out he did it behind her back, but if she doesn't find out...I guess if women get to have their secrets, men get to have theirs as well.
I still have no idea what this has to do with promiscuity. It doesn't really. It only takes one other person to have that happen. This argument is more about infidelity than promiscuity, which are totally different things.
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No, its called being a hypocrite. Its the same as saying, if you dont want kids - keep your legs closed. It goes for both men and women. When someone makes that argument, chances are they are having a hard time addressing the issue at hand.
Or they can open their legs and not have children. That's simple to.
It's actually simple for guys as well, I don't know why anyone has a problem.
dont have sex with them, is not an adult thing to say. Phrases like this one are meant to shame the person whose argument you are afraid to face. Neither men nor women are capable of taking this advice, as our primal, biological urges control our sex drives for most part.
dont have sex with them, is not an adult thing to say. Phrases like this one are meant to shame the person whose argument you are afraid to face. Neither men nor women are capable of taking this advice, as our primal, biological urges control our sex drives for most part.
There isn't anything much more adult than "Choose your partners wisely."
If you think otherwise, that in itself may be the root of the problem.
The whole paternity test subject came up because someone earlier in the thread mentioned the fact that men have the means to discover paternity using a paternity test. The counter point is that yes there is the physical means to do that, but doing so will mean the end of the relationship with the mother. So far nothing the women in this thread are saying contradicts that counter point. Now he can get the test done behind the mother's back without telling her. I'm guessing the mother would also flip her lid if she somehow found out he did it behind her back, but if she doesn't find out...I guess if women get to have their secrets, men get to have theirs as well.
I think it would be about the same as a woman taking a pregnancy test without her husband knowing. Some men might flip out and some might now. Same with women. Although honestly, I think if you are going to marry (or try to have a baby with) a woman, you really ought to 1) pick one you can trust and 2) pick one who is on the same page as you when it comes to these things. And not just parentity testing but also other tests that are done for birth defects and genetic issues. And the plan should there be a severe birth defect, what will you do, what is acceptable and what isn’t if you plan to abort a pregnancy with a deformed fetus, etc.
Again, that’s between two people and I don’t think the government has any business dictating what two adults want or don’t want to do with their family planning.
The whole paternity test subject came up because someone earlier in the thread mentioned the fact that men have the means to discover paternity using a paternity test. The counter point is that yes there is the physical means to do that, but doing so will mean the end of the relationship with the mother. So far nothing the women in this thread are saying contradicts that counter point. Now he can get the test done behind the mother's back without telling her. I'm guessing the mother would also flip her lid if she somehow found out he did it behind her back, but if she doesn't find out...I guess if women get to have their secrets, men get to have theirs as well.
Yes, if someone did something like that behind my back, I absolutely would end the relationship (added: assuming, of course, I found out about it). How would men feel about being followed by private investigators if their wives were so insecure about them and felt that maybe the guys were cheating, even if they were not.
The whole paternity test subject came up because someone earlier in the thread mentioned the fact that men have the means to discover paternity using a paternity test. The counter point is that yes there is the physical means to do that, but doing so will mean the end of the relationship with the mother.
And this matters, why, if you don't trust the mother in the first place?
Why would you WANT to be in a relationship with somebody you don't trust(hypothetical "you," obviously)?
Regarding the OPs original question, not only are men different, men (and women) change.
On a scale of 1-10, this was probably number 2 (important) when I was younger. Now it's probably 8-9. And in fact, if it had been 5-6 when I was younger, I would probably be married right now.
No, its called being a hypocrite. Its the same as saying, if you dont want kids - keep your legs closed. It goes for both men and women. When someone makes that argument, chances are they are having a hard time addressing the issue at hand.
This makes no sense.
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, confuse them with b*******, right?
Yeah, this has turned into a conversation about infidelity, moreso than one about promiscuity.
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