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Right, so men who want to stay with their wives don't really have a means of establishing paternity with a paternity test. The ladies in this thread have done an excellent job of supporting my point in that regard.
Now we're getting in to a different topic. There are threads on this forum that have in depth discussions about which is worse...cheating on someone or suspecting someone of cheating on you. They are interesting reading.
Why would they want to stay with someone they can’t trust? Maybe making her wear a chastity belt and locking her up is the answer. And then grill her every night when you come home from work about who she was sleeping with while you were away. Geez.
Maybe the man trusts the baby is his at first but at some point has reason to believe something is not right. The test should be available, otherwise he would never know if unfortunately the child was not his. It is ridiculous to consider banning it. It isn't fair to a child who may never know who their real father is, or isn't.
It IS available.
It ISN'T under serious banning consideration in the U.S.
Everyone involved has the right to be 100% certain that the offspring is biologically theirs. People are cheating at record numbers nowadays, and your trust would be most often displaced. You are opposing this, because you want to protect women who cheat, lie and manipulate from duping unsuspecting, typically emasculated males, who are afraid of asking for this certainty. If the table were turned, you would be all over make it compulsory. Take a few minutes out of your perfect life and think about the real victims here.
Seriously, is there a source for your data? Or are you making it up as you go along? What are the figures, we're talking about, here? How are they arrived at? I'm curious how exactly we assess that people are cheating "at record numbers," why it's more common "nowadays" as opposed to "ye olden days," where these assuredly academically obtained percentages of men unknowingly raising non-biological children are coming from, etc.
I get that these types of grandiose, yet unsupported, statements fly on the MRA forums, etc., but eh. Nobody really buys it, here. Surely there are other forums you might post on that are more supportive to the "Let's look at the REAL VICTIMS, here" plight, no?
Sure he does. Again in practical terms, if they are both trailer park enough to cheat on one another to the point of demanding paternity tests they're probably trailer park enough to stick together, too. They'll probably drink a Bud toast to the whole thing (but not unless she's not planning on breastfeeding Baby Questionable for at least 2 more hours because, you know...better safe than sorry) and stay together all of 3 months following their vow renewals, and so life goes on.
'Cause seriously. NORMAL people DO NOT REGULARLY have these types of scenarios.
TLC reality show people do, though.
So there's that.
All of this is a significant, real concern for the average married dude??
I don't see how any of this fits in with the exchange we were having. I've already gotten confirmation from you and others in this thread that a man who wants to keep his relationship in tact does not have the option of proving paternity using a paternity test. That was the point I was making and you seem to agree with it so I'm not sure where this outburst is coming from. Guilty conscience perhaps.
Is that really the best you can come up with? Another guy with an agenda who makes up numbers isn't a reliable source. That is legit the worst website I've seen since the 90s.
Seriously, is there a source for your data? Or are you making it up as you go along? What are the figures, we're talking about, here? How are they arrived at? I'm curious how exactly we assess that people are cheating "at record numbers," why it's more common "nowadays" as opposed to "ye olden days," where these assuredly academically obtained percentages of men unknowingly raising non-biological children are coming from, etc.
I get that these types of grandiose, yet unsupported, statements fly on the MRA forums, etc., but eh. Nobody really buys it, here. Surely there are other forums you might post on that are more supportive to the "Let's look at the REAL VICTIMS, here" plight, no?
It doesnt matter what you think. The takeaway for me is that you are fine with 100s of thousands if not millions of people, unaware of who their biological parents are. Whether its 3%, 5% or 30% - its that much too many, and can be easily solved by using dna testing technology already available to us. So why then, are you in favor of manipulation and deceit, instead? Are you afraid of everyone knowing the actual truth?
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