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Old 02-05-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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there is enough information out there, that if you really cared you could find enough sources and make up your own mind. But as it stands, you would rather pretend that paternity fraud doesnt exist, by challenging linked information. Why are you so defensive? what are you protecting so hard? Trying to keep the truth and reality away from everyone?
The truth is out there.

 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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I do not think I agree with this. In fact I know that I disagree with it.

I have fathered children, I have been a foster-parent, and I have adopted a child. If a man's ego is so fragile that he can not handle the idea of raising a child that is not his own, he has a pretty weak sense of what he is doing in life.
Thats not what I meant. I meant a man who wants to have his own biological offspring, unknowingly raising another mans children, due to deception and never fulfilling that part of his life. I cannot imagine a bigger betrayal for a man. It has nothing to do with raising an adopted child or being a step dad.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Why would most people object to mandating it? What's the reason for being against it? Is it just cost?
Probably because it's PHI.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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If he wants to keep his relationship in tact he does not have that option. You have said so yourself. You're just disagreeing for disagreement's sake at this point.
My question is: what relationship?

IMHO, there isn’t one to keep intact if he feels this way.

Also, I spoke about MY reaction only. Some men seem to overgeneralize, though...
 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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The truth is out there.
WAY out there, in some cases.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:38 PM
 
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The truth is out there.
Wow, it looks like I am finally succeeding in getting some sense into you. Good job for me!
 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Nope.

I am certain that a percentage of people will stay married anyway. People stay together under some pretty shocking circumstances at times.

At the same time, whether or not it will make things sticky, nobody can smooth that out for the couple. The man has THE OPTION to demand the testing. Period. He won't always be asking in order to save his marriage, I promise you. Sometimes, it will be to try to get out of paying child support. Do we have these options? YES. Do we have soft little guarantees that the person we're up against will love us anyway? NO, and tough. The law isn't your nanny or mommy. The law is the law, and there for you to use, at your disposal, with your individual situation just that: your situation.

Now. Did I say any non-insane man should want to break up if he suspects his wife has been poinking the mailman in order to foist a child off on the unsuspecting husband? Absolutely! Oh heck yeah! Oh, beyond. But I'm not the Relationship Police. "Should" and "will" are definitely two different things.
You've agreed that asking for a paternity test is grounds for divorce. Now you are saying otherwise, because it turned out when you said that you were actually agreeing with my point. No need to backpedal, since you've already said you agree with my point.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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Probably because it's PHI.
A lot of things are, but people don't object to them.

I'm just curious why someone would be so against it.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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WAY out there, in some cases.
*zing*
 
Old 02-05-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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A lot of things are, but people don't object to them.

I'm just curious why someone would be so against it.
You're curious as to why someone might be against a blanket mandate to turn over their DNA?
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