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I actually agree with you. Last thing I'd want to do is have sex after a large meal...
Well, and if sex isn't definite!y on the table, why have a date?
I know you didn't mean it this way but that IS the intimation from that poster. So...okay, fine and good, if literally the goal is to orchestrate a date to the specifics not to get to know the person but to get laid and then run, know what? Such a person is in NO position to call the woman a user with full indignation. Sorry, not a leg to stand on there and if it backfires, don't go screaming that women are users while men are innocent. In this scenario, it is manipulation for sex from the get go so stop flapping and shrieking about how women just use men for whatever. You're not in a position to. You're not against usury in general (obviously). Rather, you are just furious that your own Dating Coach/PUA garbage backfired and how dare she!! Well tough. (Again not directing this at 9er.)
Mad that half-baked Get Sex rules didn't work? Okey-doke. But don't blame women. Blame the "dating expert" or red pill site and go demand your money back from them...or, gasp, expose the stupid rules wherever you can as not very effective at all.
But nah...so much better and more productive to yell at women and throw feminism in randomly...
I hate adding input to a such a LONG thread but I'll make an exception.
I do not believe in going to "nice" (spendy) restaurants on a first date. Ever. The OP did, indeed, see a side to his date that was not particularly good ~ inconsideration ~ which could have been RED flag.
Don't know how you've proceeded since then, OP, and I sure am not going to read almost 70 pages to find out.
I don't think it's wrong for first dates to be in a restaurant, but I think they are much better off in more casual settings. Like BBQ? Take her/him to a good BBQ joint where there is less pretentiousness, and if he/she doesn't mind a little smudge of good sauce on a shirt then that could be a very good thing. Just pick some place GOOD that is not going to evacuate your wallet.
I guess Valentine's Day means something different to me then.
I would expect that played into her decision. Don't know why that is considered low class.
And if sex happens, it's because both people are into it and having a great time. It's not a transaction in exchange for a cobb salad.
Depends on how much she likes lobster. A Cobb salad is unlikely to work but a 2 pound baked-stuffed lobster with extra lobster meat? Maybe a fillet mignon with a nice port reduction on the plate? A magnum of Roederer Cristal?
Depends on how much she likes lobster. A Cobb salad is unlikely to work but a 2 pound baked-stuffed lobster with extra lobster meat? Maybe a fillet mignon with a nice port reduction on the plate? A magnum of Roederer Cristal?
But, like everyone is saying, two pounds of lobster or a huge steak washed down with booze is more likely to inspire naptime than sexytime.
But, like everyone is saying, two pounds of lobster or a huge steak washed down with booze is more likely to inspire naptime than sexytime.
I might like to play it my way though, and had already decided there's going to be sexytime -but first I get scallops, coconut shrimp...unlimited crab legs...and THEN act like I'm paying the piper. Everyone wins.
In the proposed transaction I wouldn't worry about my post-meal state. Let's be realistic, a dude desperate and classless enough to promote an exchange of sex for food is NOT going to be picky about a bit of bloating and apathy. He's going to go for it, feeling like a winner all the way. Pretty sure if you were to nap it would go unnoticed.
This is why I don't advise Men to take Women they just meet on dates. Go for coffee or a walk in the park. Young Women these days are socially awkward, have no common sense or decency and double standards regarding gender equality.
Honestly if I was single and this happened I would have called her out on the spot and said that's inappropriate and we're going dutch and we can just be friends. Just dead it right then and there. But my radar would have spotted that type long before the date began.
You need to learn to ask qualifying questions before asking Women out on dates in the future. It's essential these days.
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(Again not directing this at 9er.)
