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You can't preach about tolerance, while being intolerant. That's like trying to fit a square block into a round hole.
There is good and bad in every group. I had to come to understand that people who vote for a particular candidate =/= them having the same personality traits of said candidate.
The problem with this line of thinking is that you are assuming your reasons for disagreeing with something are the same as someone else's reasons for agreeing with it. "This is racist so I am against it" followed with "yes this is racist so I am for it". What monsters!
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You're proving my point. You're trying to suggest there can be an acceptable reason for supporting something that is racist (or sexist, etc).
You're proving my point and assuming that your reason for being against something is the same as someone else's reason for being for it. That they are agreeing with your assessment of it yet choosing to support it anyway.
But hey, whatever justifies your self righteous hatred, right?
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You're proving my point and assuming that your reason for being against something is the same as someone else's reason for being for it. That they are agreeing with your assessment of it yet choosing to support it anyway.
But hey, whatever justifies your self righteous hatred, right?
Again, you're trying to make the argument that there can be an acceptable reason to support it. I mean, if someone is pro, I dunno, nuclear energy, but also pro murder, rape, oppression, and you support nuclear energy, is there some way in your mind that is can be justifiable to support the person because you are also pro nuclear energy? That is straight up, well, warped doesn't even come close to describe that. A person with such thinking wouldn't be a potential partner.
And we aren't talking about personal "assessments" which are really degrees of opinion, but well documented facts, so there is not much room to "assess".
Again, you're trying to make the argument that there can be an acceptable reason to support it.
And we aren't talking about personal "assessments" which are really degrees of opinion, but well documented facts, so there is not much room to "assess".
And again you're assuming that your reason for being against something is the same as someone else's reason for supporting it, and that they agree with your...let's try perception? point of view? yet choose to support it anyway.
Tolerance and intolerance are not limited towards a particular leaning.
Anyone and everyone can be indifferent about something that is not important or trivial in nature to them, however this behavior changes when it is held as a personal importance.
You cannot be “indifferent” to something that hold personal value or interest in it. The reason for something holding any value to you IS what it offers or represents to you.
Nobody who holds personal interest is doing so with indifference. It’s valuable because it has a distinct lack of such.
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And again you're assuming that your reason for being against something is the same as someone else's reason for supporting it, and that they agree with your...let's try perception? point of view? yet choose to support it anyway.
No, see, I'm NOT making this assumption. And overall the progressives I know HAVE NOT made this assumption about Trump supporters.
What we have made is that with all those things about Trump that are well documented, that they did NOT PREVENT them from supporting him. Dude straight up mocked a disabled reporter on camera, bragged about sexual assault on tape, and they STILL supported him. That is a fact. They may have supported him for other reasons, their own, but these things did not prevent them from casting that vote. That should be a deal breaker.
No, see, I'm NOT making this assumption. And overall the progressives I know HAVE NOT made this assumption about Trump supporters.
What we have made is that with all those things about Trump that are well documented, that they did NOT PREVENT them from supporting him. Dude straight up mocked a disabled reporter on camera, bragged about sexual assault on tape, and they STILL supported him. That is a fact. They may have supported him for other reasons, their own, but these things did not prevent them from casting that vote. That should be a deal breaker.
And again you're assuming that your reason for being against something is the same as someone else's reason for supporting it, and that they agree with your...let's try conclusion? yet choose to support it anyway.
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And again you're assuming that your reason for being against something is the same as someone else's reason for supporting it, and that they agree with your...let's try perception? point of view? yet choose to support it anyway.
You are not reading what I said. I told you why this statement is incorrect (that no such assumption was made), and explained it in detail. If you don't want to read the explanation, there is no point to this conversation.
And again you're assuming that your reason for being against something is the same as someone else's reason for supporting it, and that they agree with your...let's try conclusion? yet choose to support it anyway.
So then feel free to explain all the good, tolerant reasons for being in favor of bigotry, xenophobia, homophobia, etc.
You are not reading what I said. I told you why this statement is incorrect (that no such assumption was made), and explained it in detail. If you don't want to read the explanation, there is no point to this conversation.
I read it, but again you're assuming that your reason for being against something is the same as someone else's reason for supporting it, and that they agree with your...let's try conclusion? yet choose to support it anyway. Perhaps you're not fully understanding what I'm saying.
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