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I don’t think women intentionally do this, it just happens to be an added benefit of being a single woman on the dating market.
Women rarely choose where they want to eat anyway. As a single men, you’re going to pay for a crapload of free dinners and other worthless things for women, just accept it.
And when you get married, you’ll be required to buy them even more crap. Make no mistake, women have dumped/divorced men who they feel aren’t treating them like a princess.
Yeah, well, some of us have relayed to you stories of women who said they did it intentionally.
You're right that it's usually the men who choose the eating establishment, which would prevent picky eaters from dating for free dinners, but there are still many women who have motive and opportunity to use the scam. I don't think it's an epidemic or necessarily a growing problem, but it is a problem that people should acknowledge and fight against. It's fueling animosity and defeatism in the dating pool, not unlike catfishing and romance scams.
"She just wanted a free dinner" is the whine of a man who just got jilted.
Is a man's pain funny? Furthermore, I've never heard such a "whine." It's very hard to detect someone's reason for being there, and many of the men who treat women to nice first-date dinners are wealthy and probably feel like they got something of value from having a night out with an attractive woman. But even if many 'victims' don't feel victimized, they are being scammed and nobody should condone the grifting mindset.
Is a man's pain funny? Furthermore, I've never heard such a "whine." It's very hard to detect someone's reason for being there, and many of the men who treat women to nice first-date dinners are wealthy and probably feel like they got something of value from having a night out with an attractive woman. But even if many 'victims' don't feel victimized, they are being scammed and nobody should condone the grifting mindset.
You cannot be "SCAMMED" if you don't invite someone to a dinner date until you get to know them better, and have spent significant time with them. Do drinks/coffee date first. Go play miniature golf. Go for a walk at the mall. Don't spend $100 on a restaurant dinner for a first date. It may not go well. The woman might simply feel that there is no chemistry. That doesn't mean she scammed you.
After you eat the dinner just get up and dance... LOL.
I remember there was this serial dinner dater that would meet women online and invite them to fancy restaurants and pick the most expensive items and at the time to pay the bill he would excuse himself to take a call and leave her with the bill.
You cannot be "SCAMMED" if you don't invite someone to a dinner date until you get to know them better, and have spent significant time with them. Do drinks/coffee date first. Go play miniature golf. Go for a walk at the mall. Don't spend $100 on a restaurant dinner for a first date. It may not go well. The woman might simply feel that there is no chemistry. That doesn't mean she scammed you.
After you eat the dinner just get up and dance... LOL.
I remember there was this serial dinner dater that would meet women online and invite them to fancy restaurants and pick the most expensive items and at the time to pay the bill he would excuse himself to take a call and leave her with the bill.
$100 on dinner and drinks probably isn't way above the norm for a first dinner date in some social circles in NYC, for example. And yes, it is a scam if a woman accepts a dinner date offer like that from a man who hopes for a relationship to develop when she goes in nearly sure she will drop him after the date. I will not dispute that an expensive dinner as first date is an unwise move for many a man, but misjudgment doesn't excuse dishonesty. "I don't like him that way, but he offered to take me to me to Spago" -> the listener needs to object.
$100 on dinner and drinks probably isn't way above the norm for a first dinner date in some social circles in NYC, for example. And yes, it is a scam if a woman accepts a dinner date offer like that from a man who hopes for a relationship to develop when she goes in nearly sure she will drop him after the date. I will not dispute that an expensive dinner as first date is an unwise move for many a man, but misjudgment doesn't excuse dishonesty. "I don't like him that way, but he offered to take me to me to Spago" -> the listener needs to object.
How the hell does she know he is hoping for a relationship? Maybe he just wanted company for an evening. Maybe he wanted to be seen with an attractive woman. Maybe he was hoping to get laid and then planned on totally disappearing. Plenty of guys will do that, BTW...up the ante to dinner plus lots of dropped hints about the futire in hopes of a special thank you. Then "I was used! She just wanted a free meal" when she doesn't come across.
There is NOTHING to say a guy who asks a woman for a first date hopes to develop a relationship. And women aren't mind-readers.
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