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Well yes. because American men are so happy in their relationships with American women that they die on average five years earlier then the love of their lives:
It might be buyer's market for men at age 70 but at that point, neither the buyer not the merchandize are of good quality...
It's a matter of simple mortality statistics broken down by sex. Women live longer than men. Marriages are more often than not man older, woman younger. This results in a disproportionate number of widows more than the number of widowers.
That is rather insulting to seniors that you think there is no love or romance for senior citizens. Evidently you consider all seniors as low quality.
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It is always a man’s market. Look, I know men on here always complain about the horrible wimmenz they know, but, from a woman’s perspective, generally, the men have most of the control in the dating market. Because they have to be attracted first before making any other move. Generally-and this is a generalization—this is not true for women to the same level that it is for men. Porn and the beauty industry have raised expectations for what a woman should look like. Women are expected to be independent but many men grt upset that we don’t “need them” enough. Men generally speaking make more money. Women have been conditioned not to make the first move, and many men don’t actually like it if we do... /rant
You should blame society, not men. I wish more women would ask me out. I'm annoyed that it's always on me to make the first move. Happily, I've had a few nice exceptions.
The biggest problem for women is not getting dates, it's some men who expect to have sex on the first or second date. I know this because I've discussed OLD with most of my dates and they reply with the sex on first date thing every time.
I'm not most men. I expect to make out at most before deciding whether my date has potential as a lasting relationship. I believe there must be a committed, exclusive relationship before there can be sex.
Women do get rejected as well--it's just more passive. Men who approach have to hear it to their faces, but women who don't get approached don't hear anything, just crickets.
Eventually women in this society will learn that they might have to approach if they want more quality than what they are finding. Some men have just had such bad luck or have such approach anxiety that they have "checked out" from the system if you will. The rigid religious laws which used to guide are civilization have reverted back to more of following the laws of nature, and there are very specific laws that I won't get into here. A lot of men look around and are disgusted by what they see.. women with 100 sex partners by age 23, etc.
^^^^ Rejection by females teaches men to have anxiety in approaching women, and reduces their interest in asking women out. Some men just give up after too many rejections, particularly unkind rejections (and those do happen).
I think we should discard the concept that women must wait to be asked out. Women should be equally empowered to ask men out.
^^^^ Rejection by females teaches men to have anxiety in approaching women, and reduces their interest in asking women out. Some men just give up after too many rejections, particularly unkind rejections (and those do happen).
I think we should discard the concept that women must wait to be asked out. Women should be equally empowered to ask men out.
I dunno. I never gave up. I'm very social in public to all people including perhaps single women but also anybody interesting. I'm outgoing, I love chatting with strangers.
I'm a people watcher. I just love watching all the various and interesting people. Sometimes I talk to them. I use it as social practice but it's a fun hobby and brings me more in attune with humanity.
It's good practice for my socializing with people of my opposite gender.
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Being a man magnet sounds like a person who is known for sleeping around. Yuck. And men can usually sense neediness which can attract the "bad boys" Be careful. It's better to have 1-2 men who sincerely likes you than 10-15 men who only call looking for a good time.
Being a man magnet sounds like a person who is known for sleeping around. Yuck. And men can usually sense neediness which can attract the "bad boys" Be careful. It's better to have 1-2 men who sincerely likes you than 10-15 men who only call looking for a good time.
LOl... just because a woman is attractive to a lot of men... she's probably a ****? Just because she's what might be considered a "man magnet" .... doesn't mean she's indulging ALL of them. And I would think that a woman who is able to attract a lot men... is hardly " needy", but rather able to pick and chose as she likes.
^^^^ Rejection by females teaches men to have anxiety in approaching women, and reduces their interest in asking women out. Some men just give up after too many rejections, particularly unkind rejections (and those do happen).
I think we should discard the concept that women must wait to be asked out. Women should be equally empowered to ask men out.
Why does it seem like you are putting the onus on women for these guys lack of game, low self esteem, lack of self confidence or social anxiety? I am guessing that these type guys were having issues way before they discovered us evil women. Perhaps we should enact " dating welfare" where all he has to do is show up and pick the woman he wants without having to put any effort into it.
Women are already empowered to ask men out and there are plenty that do. Just because a woman doesn't approach some guy, doesn't mean that we don't ever approach any guy. I've approached men and have been both successful and rejected. It didn't kill me or cause me to dislike men, nor did it cause me to drop out of the dating scene.
Ask me how I really feel, but do it in DM so I don't get banned.
Sydney, I'm not one of them. I was explaining how men are (I'm a man) and perhaps how I was in my earlier, shy life.
I shrug off rejection now, and attribute it to women's poor taste in men. I just trudge on. I'm very self-confident now, and rejection doesn't bother me. It's just survival of the fittest, and if she rejects me then she wasn't fit.
I was just rejected yesterday, and I'm waiting for her dime to drop when she realizes there won't be any more $200 restaurant dinners with me. I won't know how she feels because I blocked her OLD profile and her cellphone.
I'm not blaming women, that's just how things are, and some men get very hurt. I have high self esteem, I just blow off rejection and date more perceptive women instead. I already have another date arranged.
This is what you get when you have a society that requires men to ask women out, and disrespects women who ask men out. I didn't design the system.
No PM necessary. And I don't notice women who don't approach me, so I don't perceive that as rejection. I'm not Mick Jagger, or do I look like him. (Thank the gods!)
Women don't approach? I didn't get that memo. I had no problem initiating contact. I reached out to those I was interested in on a regular basis. Waiting for others to make contact made no sense to me. Had I not reached out to my husband we'd have never met, and the same for several others I dated years back.
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