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Old 10-23-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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Yes that was exactly my point, geesh. If you want to know if a woman is attracted to you, smile and make eye contact and see how she reacts. If she grimaces, vomits or calls the cops, then I would say, no, she's not interested.
I know that was your point which is exactly why I don’t do it. It doesn’t work for guys like me.

Those greetings only work for attractive guys.
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Old 10-23-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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I agree but those women usually aren’t good looking enough themselves to hold out for men they’re physically attracted to and the ones who pick you because of things outside of physical attraction are never gonna be super in lust with you..

They might pick you because you have a nice personality and they want a family or to at least get married but they’ll never have the lust or attraction they would to a guy they find physically attractive..

But it’s better then nothing I guess..
As depressing as that sounds and how much it would suck id take that this point but most women don’t operate that way. You need to provide that physical attraction or you have no chance.
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Old 10-23-2019, 03:59 PM
 
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I agree but those women usually aren’t good looking enough themselves to hold out for men they’re physically attracted to and the ones who pick you because of things outside of physical attraction are never gonna be super in lust with you..

They might pick you because you have a nice personality and they want a family or to at least get married but they’ll never have the lust or attraction they would to a guy they find physically attractive..

But it’s better then nothing I guess..
That's not necessarily true. Once they're into you, they're into you, and it could be as strong as if they thought you were the hot stud in the 1st place.

That's not necessarily good either. Strong emotional attraction is flawed.

It's really social conditioning.

I can walk into a room of 10 random, average-ish looking women of a variety of races and shapes and say something like ... "They're all pretty attractive, maybe let's see if I can click with one of them."

A woman cannot do that... they are conditioned not to be able to. However, IMO, it would be to their benefit if they could.
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Old 10-23-2019, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Smile warmly? Hell no! One I don’t smile much so it would be unnatural for me which would be obvious in other body language and my smile looks really stupid. I’m far better off giving my most natural neutral expression.
Given what you've posted of your appearance over the years, I feel like you have an imposing build and demeanour, and if you're not smiling or looking relaxed, people are reacting to that. Body language is a significant factor in social interactions or lack thereof.
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:01 PM
 
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If you want to know if a woman is interested, make direct eye contact for more than 2 seconds and smile. See how she reacts.

I know that's really hard for some of you slump-shouldered shoegazers though.

I'm not buying that a woman who looks at me and smiles is interested when many women who actually talked with me, interacted with me, initiated texting with me, gave me their numbers, etc., weren't interested.
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:11 PM
 
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Well they certainly were at one point. The question is, what happened?
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:13 PM
 
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Well they certainly were at one point. The question is, what happened?

Me.


I guess that answers the question in the title.
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Old 10-23-2019, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I think you've been correct. Don't ask them out if they seem to have little interest in you. You'd just be wasting time money and effort, and just getting heartache, disappointment. Nobody likes getting rejected. Its no fun.
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Old 10-23-2019, 09:54 PM
 
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I agree but those women usually aren’t good looking enough themselves to hold out for men they’re physically attracted to and the ones who pick you because of things outside of physical attraction are never gonna be super in lust with you..

They might pick you because you have a nice personality and they want a family or to at least get married but they’ll never have the lust or attraction they would to a guy they find physically attractive..

But it’s better then nothing I guess..
Oh dear. Here's the thing. So much of attraction in a LTR is what happens in private. If you can make her feel good, turn her on, how do I say this? What you look like doesn't matter.

The guys who made me feel the best were never the best looking ones. The real lust was generated by the guy who was down for connecting and being into each other.

Good sex, in other words.

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Old 10-23-2019, 11:43 PM
 
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I think you've been correct. Don't ask them out if they seem to have little interest in you. You'd just be wasting time money and effort, and just getting heartache, disappointment. Nobody likes getting rejected. Its no fun.
Don’t see what kind of money I’m wasting. As far as the rest of it, I’m not leery to ask because of consequences for ME, I’m leery to ask because of consequences for THEM. I’ve swung my swings and missed my misses. It hurts but that’s an acceptable outcome. Making a woman feel uncomfortable by asking her out when she doesn’t want to be is NOT an acceptable outcome.
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