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Old 11-29-2019, 07:07 AM
 
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Going to her place is not a second "date". It is a booty call.


If you wish to have an amazing intimate experience, take her out on a real date, take her home, and kiss her goodnight.


At some future point you will have "an amazing intimate experience".


Because you built up to it.


Otherwise, it is a booty call and won't end well. And certainly won't be anything "intimate".

 
Old 11-29-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It amazes me that so many men are still willing to compromise a woman's feelings of security and safety, by trying to get her off alone on the first few dates. Yet these are the exact same men who complain about #metoo and say they are worried about accusations of sexual assault. The fact is, getting a woman off alone, when you don't know her well, and trying to coerce her into sex acts, could lead to her calling the police on you. Whether you feel that is justified or not, it could happen. If you want to minimize the chances of this happening, start acting like a decent human being and learn the art of courtship. "WAITING" to have sex protects both you and the woman. Men, it's time to grow up. If you don't know how to be a gentleman, then your parents failed in how they raised you.
 
Old 11-29-2019, 02:05 PM
 
Location: CasaMo
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If you wish to have an amazing intimate experience, take her out on a real date, take her home, and kiss her goodnight.


At some future point you will have "an amazing intimate experience".
More like at some future point, you'll be an "amazing friend" if you do the above.

Moe cut.

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Old 11-29-2019, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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More like at some future point, you'll be an "amazing friend" if you do the above.

[Snip.]
Um, no. If a woman is attracted to a man, she isn't going to friend zone him.

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Old 11-29-2019, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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... If a woman is attracted to a man, she isn't going to friend zone him.
I can not agree with that statement.

A woman can date a man, have sex with him, and eventually marry him, and then decide to 'friendzone' him.

A woman can friendzone a man at any time, for any reason. In today's political climate a woman may 'friendzone' her Bf or Husband at any time, without repercussion.

It happens.

I have been there. Couples counseling may help, or it might not.
 
Old 11-29-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I can not agree with that statement.

A woman can date a man, have sex with him, and eventually marry him, and then decide to 'friendzone' him.

A woman can friendzone a man at any time, for any reason. In today's political climate a woman may 'friendzone' her Bf or Husband at any time, without repercussion.

It happens.

I have been there. Couples counseling may help, or it might not.
Do you realize this happens to women too? Half of all marriages end in divorce. Rejection is not exclusive to males.
 
Old 11-29-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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Do you realize this happens to women too? Half of all marriages end in divorce. Rejection is not exclusive to males.
Yet 80% of divorces are filed by women, which "approaches" exclusivity.

women file 80 percent of divorces
 
Old 11-29-2019, 04:04 PM
 
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Yet 80% of divorces are filed by women, which "approaches" exclusivity.
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My observation is that men often absolutely refuse to stop doing something (abuse, addiction, cheating) or address whatever seems to be going wrong but are content to stay in the marriage despite the wife's misery, therefore she then might be the initiator of divorce. No way to quantify this.
 
Old 11-29-2019, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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None of these arguments means that a woman is obligated to have sex with a man on the second date.

Yes, she could friend zone him. She could divorce him some day.

She still doesn't have to have sex with him on the second date. In spite of all of that. No matter how unfair all of it may be.
 
Old 11-29-2019, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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My observation is that men often absolutely refuse to stop doing something (abuse, addiction, cheating) or address whatever seems to be going wrong but are content to stay in the marriage despite the wife's misery, therefore she then might be the initiator of divorce. No way to quantify this.

True, no way to quantify, the closest would be a sample of 1000 divorced/divorcing men and 1000 similar women and group each cause of marital failure across some number of bins/classifications. Even that would be hard because a wife might say the marriage ended because "he abused me emotionally (so I cheated)" and the husband of the same marriage might say "she cheated".


Still … 80% … 4 out of 5 … worth pausing and considering why it also isn't closer to 50/50.
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