Is this being shallow? (calling, feelings, difference, immature)
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I don't even eat fastfood any more. And forget about pizza that stuff is pure FAT and grease. Pizza is bad for you in some many ways! I have a strict diet.
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Originally Posted by wesside
KFC?
More like Subway.
And thats another thing with me. Usually with someone I date, if we're at the grocery store and that person would want to buy lasagna, or pizza I'd be like, "No Way!"
When eating Im usually like, "you should probably hold on the fries. The burger and fries together will have like 600 cals."
But thats usually only when dating someone that doesnt work out regularly.
Well then, I'll tell ya, wesside. If you already knew the answer, why did you post the question? Just curious.
You don't think it's shallow to feel the way you do. So why did you ask us?
I guess I have doubts myself. I just wanted to know everyones opinion in general, and why they feel that way. It seems to me that those that think its shallow, look beyond the personal fitness aspect of it, and dont consider it that important. Like fitness should not be important in dating, and shouldnt be important in general. Maybe I was putting too much value on it.
I really iwouldnt want to be considered as shallow but it would be hard to change it anyways even if I was.
But questions are questions and thats why we're here for right?!
You who are afraid to show your face on here show us all that you don't really love yourself.
Actually lady:
1. Most people don't show their face on the internet for security purposes. Most other people don't have a problem with this, except YOU for some reason...
2. I DID post a pic of my face, in all its' NORMAL glory. It's in the 200 page photo thread, and it's been there for a while.
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Originally Posted by JerZ
You have a bit of growing up to do... And for the record...I was non-physically judgmental when I weighed 95 pounds. Perhaps I'm giving you too much credit--perhaps some people truly don't have the capacity to think and feel beyond the physical. (shrug) It takes all kinds, I guess...
*yawn* YOU have a bit of growing up to do. Insecure people rant and rave about inner beauty, this is not a new thing. If you were really mature your response would have been a quick one-liner, or something fat freddy might say. You would not have felt a need to defend your inner beauty (which was not called into question before that).
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Originally Posted by Hobokenkitchen
You don't sound like one of the nicest guys ever - you've said some very cruel things to Jerz, and it doesn't make you come across well at all.
Nope. And that's because, (since I must reiterate), the internet is not my normal personality. It's just one small facet, most people have different sides. It's not intended to be 'cruel' so much as blunt.
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Originally Posted by JerZ
BUT...you know what? Once I was fat, none of the things I feared actually came true. Men didn't stop coming on to me (wedding ring or no wedding ring--yikes). My friends didn't abandon me. My opinions didn't count less. People still told me I was beautiful and young-looking.
That's because you have a decent looking face, and because men are perpetually horny. Men will come on to anything. It's not a good indicator of your looks. Maybe you are young-looking?
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Originally Posted by MonaLisaVito
You REALLY should only speak for yourself, you don't know what OUR bodies look like, and you just might have to remove that foot out of your mouth.
Yep, I DONT know. And I'm never going to have to 'remove that foot' from my mouth, because you are never going to post a pic of yourself in a bikini. Oh that's right, it would be 'shallow' of you. Therefore, no foot will be removed from any mouth. Put up, or shut up I say. If you have the body of a supermodel, you should have at least one pic floating around to prove it.
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Originally Posted by moonsavvy
No no, I was saying that your post was the post of the day. I absolutely love when someone can love and accept themselves for who they are. Women especially.
Because men loving and accepting themselves for who they are is, well just not as special or sacred! Good to hear it.
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Originally Posted by JerZ
Exactly so. Not to even mention the fact that we didn't just post pictures of "our best physical feature". We didn't pose, crop, cut, grayscale and show our underwear so that people would get an image of us that was incomplete, to say the least. Those of us who posted less-than-perfect, non-posed, non-Photoshopped pictures are more self-confident...we do have that, and that's huge. That's something that doesn't go away based on one person's say-so.
*yawn* again. That picture (as I have explained) was taken IN GRAYSCALE on a small digital camera, four years ago. I got home from mountain biking. Female friends had complained because I talked about exercising all the time on another forum (dead now), but I didn't have any pics to prove I was actually in shape. So I got home, set the camera up on a table, took off my shirt, and flexed just my abs. In my right hand I'm holding the remote control to the camera. The picture wasn't 'cropped and gray scaled' it was aimed at my torso, and the camera took the pic in gray scale. It was a rather low-quality picture but I put it up as my avatar for a while. It's a less-than-perfect picture, but because it actually is the best physical feature on my body, it offends you. When you open a magazine and see a calvin klein ad, are you offended by the underwear models because they *dare* expose their skin? People like eye candy, and people like looking at black and white images of the human body. The human body can be beautiful even if it's not muscular, just look at the mega-popularity of 'tasteful nude' artwork in black and white. Again this particular picture was not edited, I took it, posted it on the internet, and I've had it ever since.
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Originally Posted by JerZ
There are pictures on here of people throwing footballs, people hiking, people getting their hair blown around in freezing-cold places and wearing shapeless windbreakers. They're very unprofessional--because generally, they were taken by people who love us. My picture shows me bending down because it was taken by a not-quite-four-foot tall little guy. My hair hadn't been brushed all day and my makeup was minimal and slap-dash. It was a real picture--of me really living. Just like 99% of the pictures on here.
Oh, the peaceful nobility of it all! If only I could understand that taking a picture of myself in a windbreaker eating beef jerky on a mountain is so much more grand than a picture of me standing in my living room with my shirt off!
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Originally Posted by JerZ
We all could have Photoshopped our pictures. What's so hard?
Lol, I didn't. And no, it's not hard, but I don't own the photoshop program, and never have. Sorry, all I got is msPaint. So no, not ALL of us can photoshop our programs.
Wesside: Nicely done, man. I'm surprised you're able to maintain that bod with all the college partying and stuff. And yes, everyone is right to avoid pizza and nachos.
I don't even eat fastfood any more. And forget about pizza that stuff is pure FAT and grease. Pizza is bad for you in some many ways! I have a strict diet.
OK, now that I'm done with my wonderful eggs swimming in butter, bacon, English muffin, and let's not forget the beer, I can address your problems.
Honestly, I don't get what planet I'm on when I listen to ya... Really mean no offense, but you guys (and others; you're certainly not an exception) sound sooo superficial, it's unbelievable! Who knows... if I grew up here I could've been like you... I just can't relate to you on any level at all! We all have issues. Some admit them, some don't; however, perceiving people (much less men) looking all day in the mirror for imperfections and being so petty and judgmental about themselves and others is totally beyond me...
I just said that I have a strict diet and don't want to be fat. You call that having issues?
puhlease.
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Originally Posted by sierraAZ
OK, now that I'm done with my wonderful eggs swimming in butter, bacon, English muffin, and let's not forget the beer, I can address your problems.
Honestly, I don't get what planet I'm on when I listen to ya... Really mean no offense, but you guys (and others; you're certainly not an exception) sound sooo superficial, it's unbelievable! Who knows... if I grew up here I could've been like you... I just can't relate to you on any level at all! We all have issues. Some admit them, some don't; however, perceiving people (much less men) looking all day in the mirror for imperfections and being so petty and judgmental about themselves and others is totally beyond me...
I just said that I have a strict diet and don't want to be fat. You call that having issues?
puhlease.
My opinion is not based on this one post alone, artsy. At least you're gay - it's kinda expected from you. I don't know what woman can possibly find such qualities attractive in a straight guy, though. Perhaps there are such women, too. Thank goodness I don't encounter them and they don't appear to be on this forum, either.
well if you think it's a character flaw I have then being gay isn't really going to help me any.
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Originally Posted by sierraAZ
My opinion is not based on this one post alone, artsy. At least you're gay - it's kinda expected from you. I don't know what woman can possibly find such qualities attractive in a straight guy, though. Perhaps there are such women, too. Thank goodness I don't encounter them and they don't appear to be on this forum, either.
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