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Old 05-06-2009, 01:26 PM
 
Location: southern california
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any woman with a 6 figure income and a career so bright she has got to wear shades is not drooling in the aisle looking at a marriage magazine. marriage (and divorce) is one way for a woman of limited ability to move on up.
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Old 05-06-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: NY metro area
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I'm married and I still buy wedding magazines and books!
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Old 05-06-2009, 04:29 PM
 
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It's all about marketing .. well, for the most part - the other part is sociological/anthropological/societal, etc. which is another topic all together. Stop and think who spends the most money? Not the guys.. it's the women who spend more. Then you have the heavy influence from the media and TV realty shows.

I had really hoped that by now, women would have progressed beyond all this - in some sense they are worse. I am a women BTW.
Another failure of the women's movement. Marketing is really THE most important social movement of the last half century and women have really only made "gains" where their interests weren't in conflict.

Almost every relationship problem stems from it to some extent. People are conditioned to respond in ways that business wants and very few have what it takes to resist. These people seldom have children.
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Old 05-06-2009, 04:32 PM
 
Location: CA
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First of all, big difference between a marriage & the wedding....

I don't think all women dream of their wedding. It's something I've given little to no thought to. I do entertain the idea of marriage, and would like to marry someday. These are not thoughts I've had since childhood. As a child I dreamed of being a hairdresser, a ballerina, a rock star, an artist, etc....but never a wife, a mother, or a bride.

I do think society conditions women to be more marriage-minded, as that used to be the main option for women. If a woman says she wants something other than a family, then people think there is something wrong with her.

We are definitely not brainwashed. We still think for ourselves and have our own individual goals & dreams, despite that our culture tries to dictate what we should want.

Conversely, you might say men are told they are supposed to be sex obsessed and that having & showing emotion is a weakness. So asking a man if he ever wants to marry or have a family may not get much response because he doesn't want to seem like a human being.
Or, you know, maybe men have their own individual views & feelings too
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Old 05-06-2009, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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Give your 100% honest opinions guys and gals. BE HONEST(ladies)
Ha! Last time I fell for that you baited us and slammed us for our answers. But I'll give it one more try.

Yeah, I'm brainwashed about marriage. Since my last one I can't even begin to think about marriage again. And that one came to an end 13 years ago. Brainwashed, indeed.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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I was raised in a very patriarchal religion and I was brainwashed to believe that women always marry, women always are less then their husbands, women don't live on their own and do their own thing, women can't expect to be equal with men, they must submit.
I was programmed to believe also that men wanted this same arrangement and that men would treat their women with respect and love.
I literally had no idea. It took me alot of years to get that out of my head and try to see people for who they were rather then who they were supposed to be based on the brainwashing I grew up with.
My brainwashing started at a young age, I was told to learn to play the piano so that if I married a minister, I could play for his congregation. I was told that it didn't matter what degree I got, just as long as I got one, I was really in college to get my MRS degree.

NOT ONCE did anyone say to me, get a degree that you can get a job with because I would clearly be married to a pillar of the church that would support me while I popped out more christian zombies at home so the church could claim more and more members are following their beliefs.
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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TBH, I think a lot of women have been brainwashed when it comes to marriage. Whenever I say that I don't plan on getting married women always tell me "oh, you will one day!" and it really ticks me off! The very idea of marriage doesn't appeal to me and it seems very religious. And I don't understand why so many women spend thousands of dollars on weddings! If I ever do get married, I hope it'll be a small, casual court-house wedding with a witness or two.

My mother is getting remarried at the end of the month. All this talk about weddings all the time really irritates me, and I'm getting suckered into all these stupid wedding traditions. >_<
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:22 PM
 
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I think women are more into marriage because society tells women they shouldn't have sex until marriage. And when it comes down to it we all, both men and women, just wanna get laid. Of course, women do have sex with men before marriage but many women do it hoping that that man is "the one." Just my opinion, and you all know what they say about opinions lol.

Edit: Now that I look at it my theory is rather circular. Oh well, I'll change my answer to I haven't got a clue lol.

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Old 05-07-2009, 01:01 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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The reason why I ask is because I go into bookstores very often to check out the newest mags. I notice there are tons of mags about- weddings and brides in the womens section but I never see one mag about weddings and grooms in the mens section.

Also, when I mention that I really am not interested in marriage, it's always the women that respond with curiousity as to why I don't plan on getting married. Guys never ask why, heck I don't think guys care about it as much as women do.


Have women been conditioned to believe in marriage moreso than guys?




Give your 100% honest opinions guys and gals. BE HONEST(ladies)
nope...
it's just that "fancy wedding stuff" has traditionally been the girls' interest more than the guys'
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:38 AM
 
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The reason why I ask is because I go into bookstores very often to check out the newest mags. I notice there are tons of mags about- weddings and brides in the womens section but I never see one mag about weddings and grooms in the mens section.

Also, when I mention that I really am not interested in marriage, it's always the women that respond with curiousity as to why I don't plan on getting married. Guys never ask why, heck I don't think guys care about it as much as women do.


Have women been conditioned to believe in marriage moreso than guys?



Give your 100% honest opinions guys and gals. BE HONEST(ladies)
Yes women are brainwashed about marriage.

I believe this society does not have enough other relationships or community, it is like everything is to be invested into the love relationship and married partner to be everything and anything which is IMPOSSIBLE and bound for failure. Also I look at the people getting married and they are nmore in love with idea of being married and on display, like Bridezillas then even being into the person they are with.
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