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But how many women does the average regular guy need to have drooling over him? And the same goes for the average women. Are we so narcissistic a society that we aren't happy unless we have hordes of people drooling after us? Should we all feel unhappy and unfulfilled if we aren't all desirable 10's?
Exactly. Why the hell would anyone need hundreds of admirers at any given time? I think Wayne Campbell expressed it best when he said, "Led Zeppelin didn't care if they were liked by everybody. They left that to the Bee Gees."
What I am saying is for a large portion of the male population, no woman will ever find them sexy, even their lovers, BUT, women, no matter who they are, can be able to find someone who is intrested in them for their looks as well as their personalities.
VictorianPunk, you already have your own beliefs, and nothing--not even overwhelming evidence to the contrary--will ever change them, so I'm not sure what the point of this exercise has been.
Did you just want us to agree with you?
Do we have to get mad too? I don't have the energy to get mad right now. I'm getting my period. Is it okay by you if I get mad next week instead?
Have you ever considered just chilling and not holding gripes and predisposed beliefs about virtually every portion of female society? Haven't you ever wondered why you would see judgmentalism in so very many people? Could it be because you're the one who is judgmental and you're projecting?
VictorianPunk, you already have your own beliefs, and nothing--not even overwhelming evidence to the contrary--will ever change them, so I'm not sure what the point of this exercise has been.
I have not seen any evidence to the contrary.
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Did you just want us to agree with you?
Do we have to get mad too? I don't have the energy to get mad right now. I'm getting my period.
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Have you ever considered just chilling and not holding gripes and predisposed beliefs about virtually every portion of female society?
They are not "predisposed believes" as much as they are facts.
Also, when women make unfounded generalizations about men, all I hear is a chorus of "you go girl!", but when a man makes one statement like "women, as a whole, are allot more uniform about what they are into than men are," I get attacked
And I have also never ridden the back of a griffin yet, or beamed aboard the Enterprise yet. Why? because those things, like entering the dating world, are not necessarily impossible, but EXTREMELY unlikely.
victorianpunk - I know that you want a girlfriend, but I think that you are way over analyzing us women folk. I think that you would do well with a geeky girl and not your typical MySpace loving, club going young woman. I think that you'd more likely find her on a university campus or working in an IT environment. She'll be into cool things and know what Valhalla is. She may be into Anime or Trekkie conventions. She won't care that you don't look like Brad Pitt or some other tall movie star. But she definitely won't be hanging out in the normal singles hangouts.
1. I disagree that a woman will never find an non-stereotypically attractive man sexy. I think my husband is the sexiest man in the world. Seriously. I may not have when I met him, but now I honestly cannot think of anyone that I find more physically attractive. The opposite happens to me as well; I can find someone attractive and get to know them and later have no idea what I saw in them at all.
2. An almost fool-proof way to make women angry is to generalize about them.
3. "A lot" is two words.
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I see unattractive men all the time with girlfriends/wives. Are you telling me that no woman will get hot for them- well they're with one, so I suspect she does.
There are women who only date black men. Only date Mexican men. Only date men in wheelchairs. The list goes on.
But really, why all this discourse with a 20 something who has not had sex, probably not been on dates, and knows very little about anything that has to do with relationships?
I can watch and study skydiving all I want, but I am still far from an expert and no one will take me seriously until I experience it. Same with you, you can watch porn and Star Trek relationships all day, but you really know nothing until you experience the real thing. All your speculation is merely nothing but that, because you don't know any better.
There is a big difference between a fetish and unusuall taste.
Do you have any experience or empirical data to back this up? You can't claim (in any credible terms) taste unless you have actually tried it. You're attempting to conceptualize an idea with no real experience. What you describe/define as "taste" is really "preference". If you claim "personality, character, similar intrest etc." as taste, then tell me: what does it taste like? What's the flavor?
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And I have also never ridden the back of a griffin yet, or beamed aboard the Enterprise yet. Why? because those things, like entering the dating world, are not necessarily impossible, but EXTREMELY unlikely.
Precisely. How can you claim taste when you've never tried it?
Okay, I think that there are some men and some women in this world that are considered "generally attractive" which is that the majority of people find their looks very appealing. However, there isn't exactly ONE look that everyone will like. I don't care if they're the most perfect human on this planet, I promise you that at least one person will say, "I don't find them beautiful/hot/handsome".
Back to your question, I would have to say yes but ONLY because men are just more open to women in general. The majority of men aren't extremely picky and don't literally have a list of what they're looking for in the opposite sex (even though they may have a few things that they prefer).
Most women have a virtual list of what they're looking for in guys and the stuff on it can vary from brown hair to must make more then 200k to must play basketball. It's like we're ordering a guy from a factory and checking off our wish lists. Since we're more picky, it looks like we're stuck on only one "type" of guy.
Don't forget, this doesn't go for everyone out there. Exceptions are very, very common.
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I think that you would do well with a geeky girl and not your typical MySpace loving, club going young woman. I think that you'd more likely find her on a university campus or working in an IT environment. She'll be into cool things and know what Valhalla is. She may be into Anime or Trekkie conventions. She won't care that you don't look like Brad Pitt or some other tall movie star. But she definitely won't be hanging out in the normal singles hangouts.
