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Old 11-11-2022, 10:28 AM
 
Location: SoCal again
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Just own your body and be confident, that's 99% of it for most of us men. Insecurity is a major turnoff.
Well, to get back on topic, I second this post^

I am not a man but I think it isn't as much how your body looks like than what you do with it
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Old 11-11-2022, 10:30 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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There are very few places in the country where $100K individual annual income is "average."
Almost none, especially when in economics/sociology the average is generally considered the median.

Maybe a few zip codes. The median HOUSEHOLD income in Manhattan just north of $100k. The median invidual income is quite a bit less, of course.
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Old 11-11-2022, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Most men certainly do not have a professional degree. That's less than the 30% with a bachelor's degree. That's probably only 10% of men.
My point is that the data needs to be disaggregated because we're often comparing households full of graduate students who get paid minimum wage as research assistants to much older people already established in their careers. For me personally, I don't care much about the fact that I earn way more than a 22-year old in an entry level position. What's more relevant to me is what people are earning at the same age.

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You're not talking about 30%+, you're talking about <25%. That's 'way to the left of the peak of the bell curve. That's outlier territory. That's remarkable.
That's not "outlier" territory. Without getting into technical detail, just think of a vaccination that fails to prevent death 25 times out of 100. Would you call those 25 deaths "outliers"? When people say something is an "outlier," they mean something that is probably at least 3SDs from the mean. So 30 deaths in 100,000 cases could easily be called an "outlier." 30,000 deaths in 100,000 cases could not.

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Well, yeah, that is remarkable.
Well, then, maybe men should stop being so delusional and asking for something that's so statistically "rare."
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Old 11-11-2022, 02:03 PM
 
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So over the course of the last 5 years I have lost a substantial amount of weight (about 60 pounds). As a result I have body image issues because of the hanging skin as a result of the weight loss (that working out does not fix). I haven't had sex yet at this size, and while with my last boyfriend I did have some hanging skin (he didn't seem to care), it's worse now since I've lost more weight since then. I am 40 years old and usually date men my age or older so part me thinks a tight body is not as important to men as they get older, but I just know when the time does come to have sex with someone I will be extremely self conscious and don't want that to get in the way. I am considering getting a tummy tuck, but haven't made a final decision yet.

So I was just wondering how important is a tight body on a woman to men 40 and over?
They are all different, just like women, so no one can answer that.
Kudos to you for losing the weight. As far as the tummy tuck, do what makes YOU feel comfortable and confident.
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Old 11-11-2022, 05:08 PM
 
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A tight toned body on a guy is not important to me at all.

I live in NYC so most people over 40 make six figures here (including me and I wouldn't want to date someone who makes much less than I do), but like I said the body is not important to me.
Then I would say the world is your oyster. Outside of the six figures part because I'm not sure too many people really make that kind of money.
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Old 11-11-2022, 08:53 PM
 
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People need to stop using "six figures" as a benchmark of success. It was a benchmark of success back in the 80s when "six figures" was indeed a big deal because hardly anyone made that. But $100,000 in 1982 is about the equivalent of $300,000 in 2022 dollars.

"Six figures" in most parts of the country is about as remarkable as saying "I went to college." I'm not trying to be elitist here or anything, I'm just saying that a salary in the low 100s is not going to blow anyone's mind, and it's not even an unreasonable requirement depending on where you live and what circles you move in.

35.6% of men who are 40 years old have at least a Bachelor's Degree. 25.9% of all 40-year old men working full-time make at least $100,000. Among the college-educated, it rises to 48%. So not exceptional at all.
Well maybe it's because the average wage in this country is 45K so 100K is still over double of what 68% of "working" adults make, so while 100K no longer puts you in the top 10% it still puts you firmly in the top 20%. so it's still a benchmark as it's the level to where you no longer have to scrutinize every dollar going out at bill time and live in reasonable comfort.
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Old 11-12-2022, 03:40 AM
 
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Well maybe it's because the average wage in this country is 45K so 100K is still over double of what 68% of "working" adults make, so while 100K no longer puts you in the top 10% it still puts you firmly in the top 20%. so it's still a benchmark as it's the level to where you no longer have to scrutinize every dollar going out at bill time and live in reasonable comfort.
I read that post and I got to the point where you said not to sound elitist and I knew at that moment something elitist was coming out next.
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Old 11-12-2022, 03:43 AM
 
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People need to stop using "six figures" as a benchmark of success. It was a benchmark of success back in the 80s when "six figures" was indeed a big deal because hardly anyone made that. But $100,000 in 1982 is about the equivalent of $300,000 in 2022 dollars.

"Six figures" in most parts of the country is about as remarkable as saying "I went to college." I'm not trying to be elitist here or anything, I'm just saying that a salary in the low 100s is not going to blow anyone's mind, and it's not even an unreasonable requirement depending on where you live and what circles you move in.

35.6% of men who are 40 years old have at least a Bachelor's Degree. 25.9% of all 40-year old men working full-time make at least $100,000. Among the college-educated, it rises to 48%. So not exceptional at all.
Yeah it's pretty elitist only about 15% of the employed people in our country make $100,000 a year.

And the statistics I got said that 21% of men make six figures.

So it's a pretty heavy blow to the dating market to require that I would just say go nun if that's your requirement. In reality those guys could probably have a 25-year-old if they wanted even if they were 40.
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Old 11-12-2022, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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So over the course of the last 5 years I have lost a substantial amount of weight (about 60 pounds). As a result I have body image issues because of the hanging skin as a result of the weight loss (that working out does not fix). I haven't had sex yet at this size, and while with my last boyfriend I did have some hanging skin (he didn't seem to care), it's worse now since I've lost more weight since then. I am 40 years old and usually date men my age or older so part me thinks a tight body is not as important to men as they get older, but I just know when the time does come to have sex with someone I will be extremely self conscious and don't want that to get in the way. I am considering getting a tummy tuck, but haven't made a final decision yet.

So I was just wondering how important is a tight body on a woman to men 40 and over?
You know what's considered attractive. Unless you are competing with 25 year olds it shouldn't be an issue
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Old 11-12-2022, 04:03 AM
 
Location: north bama
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a neighbor of mine wants to have some fun with me but i cant get beyond how big she is .. i dont look longingly at large women when at walmart . so size matters to me but that`s only me .. plenty of men prefer bigger body women ..
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