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Old 06-02-2008, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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Fair enough. I just wouldn't want to be involved in one of those situations, not because I think they shouldn't take place in general, but because I don't want someone wholly or even mainly for sex, and I wouldn't want the other person to feel the same way.
Personally I think it's almost impossible to NOT be involved at all levels in all relationships - it's just that sometimes an involvement level is so low as to be almost invisible.

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Good points that hadn't occurred to me. Do prostitutes play these other roles as often? Maybe I'm just ignorant on the subject.
I'm not sure. Give me a few days and I'll be back with some fresh data.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:02 AM
 
Location: West Texas
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Still looking for that fight, huh?
I swear I NEVER look for a fight on here... I just know the mentality of some who post on these boards... armchair lawyers. If you say "most men..." or "most women..." or anything that is a generalization... even if you try to claim you are making a generalization, inevitably there is someone who feels the need to say: "well... that's not true for me, and broad statements like that..."
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:13 AM
 
Location: West Texas
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Good points that hadn't occurred to me. Do prostitutes play these other roles as often? Maybe I'm just ignorant on the subject.
Again... it's the mindset of the individual who receives the word "prostitute." Is a prostitute the 3-tooth wonder standing on the corner just trying to make enough for his/her next crack fix? Or is it that expensive call girl/guy (also called escort) who is actually in an 'elite' position to offer often educated companionship that may or may not result in sexual activity. I have heard first hand from people who have paid for an escort solely to go on a date with a woman who was accepting to be treated like a lady (didn't mind a man opening a door, pulling out a chair, etc.) was educated (college degree), and physically attractive. They went out to dinner, maybe dancing, and did nothing sexual with these women at all. Granted, there was the additional cost to "date" these women, but none of them have said they regretted it. And for all of them it was a "one-time deal" (unless they just didn't tell me about additional dates).

Now.. before many of you on here say "That's me... and I'm not a prostitute" remember a couple things. First... you're probably married.. so guys will not be looking to you for a date. Secondly, you probably don't live in the area where the guys I knew were. Third, as hard as it is (was?) for you to find 'Mr. Right' the same holds true.. and as has been brought out in many posts, it's much easier for women to pick and choose dates than men.

So, defining a prostitute could be a root of all this. For some it won't make a darn plumb nickel of a difference. For others, it might.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:20 AM
 
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Personally I think it's almost impossible to NOT be involved at all levels in all relationships - it's just that sometimes an involvement level is so low as to be almost invisible.
Are you saying that sex is everyone's ultimate goal? I don't feel that way, but I suppose the vast majority do.
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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I swear I NEVER look for a fight on here... I just know the mentality of some who post on these boards... armchair lawyers. If you say "most men..." or "most women..." or anything that is a generalization... even if you try to claim you are making a generalization, inevitably there is someone who feels the need to say: "well... that's not true for me, and broad statements like that..."
I know. That's why every so often I go "walkabout" - just leave the boards entirely, get out and walk in the woods, commune with nature, molest small furry mammals, etc. then come back fully recharged.

Otherwise, you go crazy thinking these forums are reality.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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Are you saying that sex is everyone's ultimate goal? I don't feel that way, but I suppose the vast majority do.
No, no, not at all. What I'm saying is if we consider that there are 3 elements - physical, emotional (mental) and spiritual - each of these ingredients HAVE to be present in ANY relationship. Their percentages, though, will vary all over the board depending on the specific relationship.

Sex itself, although not a relationship per se, certainly contains all three elements. So it's no wonder that people get confused, annoyed and downright exasperated when it comes to human relations - it's a very complex equation to balance.

SO much easier just being a monk.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:09 AM
 
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Okay, I got ya. It seems lately I have a bad habit of forgetting certain portions of the conversation. Okay. lol Also, I have a couple of friends who would definitely agree with you on the monk point.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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It seems lately I have a bad habit of forgetting certain portions of the conversation.
Were we having a conver...oh, yeah.

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Also, I have a couple of friends who would definitely agree with you on the monk point.
Well, there's always a "crash-room" in my temple if they swing by this way.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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His sleeping with whomever is what brought him to where he is today. If she likes that then go forward. If she is focused on the past then she may not be a good match for him. Living in the past will provide lots of empty tomorrows. Life is a progression, go forward or someone else will with this fellow.Sleeping with anyone has little bearing as to someone cheating... that is an issue of character and self image. STD's can be checked for and I think that is a courtesy couples owe each other. I would get a clear HIV every time I would start a serious relationship. Being careful between I did for myself.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:05 PM
 
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[quote=SifuPhil;3971080] molest small furry mammals, etc.

and are the 3 elements - physical, emotional (mental) and spiritual - each of these ingredients HAVE to be present in ANY relationship - present in these encounters or they aren't considered realtionships...much like hiring a prostitue? paying with nuts
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