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Its a great idea, like the guy who made the site that helps you lie. Its about the money, if you can offer a service or make it easier for someone to do something as long as they are willing to pay. Its genius, moral...not so much. But how much money do you think they are bringing in? More than you and me.
Take the religious sermonizing to the Religion forum. This forum is for relationships.
To get this topic back on track:
Are the number of people who cheat much higher than we think? Are we too uptight when it comes to sex (in comparsion to Europe) and we tend to think of as some unnatural experience? Is it a lack of sexual chemistry with a spouse/partner?
Are the number of people who cheat much higher than we think? Are we too uptight when it comes to sex (in comparsion to Europe) and we tend to think of as some unnatural experience? Is it a lack of sexual chemistry with a spouse/partner?
Cheating , as in adultery, is becoming a sad epidemic. When we have TV programs devoted to this, you know its a runaway train. We are not too uptight about sex... we are too irresponsible , immoral, and dont view sex with any sense of sacredness ; we determine a persons worth based on body parts and how they can satisfy another for a temporary non commital relationship (hedonism) . Further, we put way too much emphasis on sexual chemistry .... to the point that many many people dont get married to a person, but rather, to a body. And that isnt enough to sustain a marriage for any length of time.
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Are the number of people who cheat much higher than we think? Are we too uptight when it comes to sex (in comparsion to Europe) and we tend to think of as some unnatural experience? Is it a lack of sexual chemistry with a spouse/partner?
IMO, "yes" to your first two questions and "I'm not sure" to your last one.
It never ceases to amaze me how people (in this forum and elsewhere) will scream about "cheating" and how horrible it is but, in other threads, talk about sex as if it's something "nasty" (as in "doing the nasty") or inconsequential, like just another pastime or activity. So, what -- sex is "nasty" and "dirty" unless you have a license to do it? That doesn't make sense, and it fosters a very unhealthy view of human sexuality.
For what it's worth, I think that if we actually taught and BELIEVED that sex is a beautiful expression of human emotion and we weren't so rigid about it, there wouldn't be as much perversion. But when you put so many restrictions and negativity on what is a GIFT, then people use that gift to hurt and control others and to rebel. And that's exactly what we see happen in regards to sex -- it's used as a weapon, withheld to hurt and control, and put under such strict rules that it loses its specialness and beauty.
It is absolutely wrong to commit the rest of one's life to one person. That does not stop billions of people from doing it. Since it was wrong to get married in the first place anything that takes place subsequent to that is absolved on the grounds that it was the natural outcome of an unatural situation.
What double standard? I can't speak for everyone but I think what 'most' guys have against cheating is all the secrecy. As long as she insists the other guy use a condom I for one am cool with my old lady getting a little extra for herself. Even better if she lets me watch, at least that way I don't have to wonder if he was bigger than me or not. An earlier comment notwithstanding, I see a lot of scornful hostility directed at 'cheaters'. If so many are so.... monogamous, and its such a great thing... why all the divorce?
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The high divorce rate can be because people hold high standards and expectations for a marriage. All divorce due to the 3 - As, adultery, abuse, and addiction are certainly justifiable. Once someone has cheated, the vows are broken and the marriage is over unless the victim wishes to be a victim and likes to live his or her life in competition with others.
Um, she was saying there wasn't any way to tell who the parents were by a person's DNA back then. I thought that was pretty obvious.
What? Have you talked to anyone in Europe? America's still pretty puritanical for the most part. It has this "taboo" idea of extra-marital relationships and homosexuality and what-not that is really rather ridiculous. If I was upper-class, I'd be p*ssed off I was born here.
Who cares what they do in Europe -- the problem with cheaters is they are nothing but liars. Swingers might agree to an open marriage, but if something is okay, then why lie about it? Tell your wife or husband you are no longer going to be monogamous, that you plan to have sex with others, and let she or he also decide how they wish to live, maybe they don't want to be lied to, cheated on, played for fools.
That's what is wrong with cheaters - they pretend to love someone but play that person for a fool.
It is absolutely wrong to commit the rest of one's life to one person. That does not stop billions of people from doing it. Since it was wrong to get married in the first place anything that takes place subsequent to that is absolved on the grounds that it was the natural outcome of an unatural situation.
Then don't do it, don't marry, don't lie to someone, don't commit when you have no intention of being faithful. Or if your marriage has gone sour, and you don't want to work on it, end it. Be honest.
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What double standard? I can't speak for everyone but I think what 'most' guys have against cheating is all the secrecy. As long as she insists the other guy use a condom I for one am cool with my old lady getting a little extra for herself. Even better if she lets me watch, at least that way I don't have to wonder if he was bigger than me or not. An earlier comment notwithstanding, I see a lot of scornful hostility directed at 'cheaters'. If so many are so.... monogamous, and its such a great thing... why all the divorce?
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And that is just you. Not all men want their wives getting it on with every kind of guy out there. Why would they?
It sounds like you are in what they'd call an "open" marriage which isn't really marriage in the way most people think of marriage. Your wife can get with any guy, you can get with any woman, you can make a party of sex with others but it doesn't involve lying if your wife invites you to watch and do the guy too.
Then don't do it, don't marry, don't lie to someone, don't commit when you have no intention of being faithful. Or if your marriage has gone sour, and you don't want to work on it, end it. Be honest.
And that is just you. Not all men want their wives getting it on with every kind of guy out there. Why would they?
It sounds like you are in what they'd call an "open" marriage which isn't really marriage in the way most people think of marriage. Your wife can get with any guy, you can get with any woman, you can make a party of sex with others but it doesn't involve lying if your wife invites you to watch and do the guy too.
One of the problems I think is our divorce laws that a lot of people (men in particular) in not wanting to end marriages. You get screwed financially and if kids are involved, you'll have to fight for all you can get.
Cheating , as in adultery, is becoming a sad epidemic. When we have TV programs devoted to this, you know its a runaway train. We are not too uptight about sex... we are too irresponsible , immoral, and dont view sex with any sense of sacredness ; we determine a persons worth based on body parts and how they can satisfy another for a temporary non commital relationship (hedonism) . Further, we put way too much emphasis on sexual chemistry .... to the point that many many people dont get married to a person, but rather, to a body. And that isnt enough to sustain a marriage for any length of time.
If you're in a serious relationship and that person is faithful to you, then it is irresponsible. Other than that, I have no problems with people engaging in sexual relations. It's human nature to me.
Sexual chemistry is VERY important. Sex is very important in a relationship. Don't kid yourself. If one partner is closed off in this area, it wouldn't suprise me if the one strays.
Yeah. But if the members are married, then how would they even keep it secret? I mean, all it takes is the SO sitting down with the Visa statement and saying, "Honey? What's this monthly charge for Bangme Entertainment?" And, voila, busted.
cpg35223; Dang good line, thank's for the humor.
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