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Many of those women are the same women crying for equal rights. Radical feminists who are intimidated by chivalry - Miss Independant's that must prove they are just as macho, only in feminine form. Chivalry, remember it guys? It's those women who have changed this, not the men. The wheel was not broke - the Feminists have tried to reinvent it.
Equal rights, equal voting, equal pay, Equal split the bill.
My mom says the liberal feminist movement has ruined it for themselves under the guise of the "modern woman can do anything" and alas they are. The big job, raising the kids, running the house, etc. with the man relegated to sperm donor and trash taker out. The roles we once had in society have now been screwed up and now no one knows what to do. Also if the woman is doing it all, they are not likely doing it well. That's her take.
Equal rights, equal voting, equal pay, Equal split the bill.
My mom says the liberal feminist movement has ruined it for themselves under the guise of the "modern woman can do anything" and alas they are. The big job, raising the kids, running the house, etc. with the man relegated to sperm donor and trash taker out. The roles we once had in society have now been screwed up and now no one knows what to do. Also if the woman is doing it all, they are not likely doing it well. That's her take.
Both my DH and I have had credit cards denied - and it had nothing to do with insufficient funds. Normally after a big purchase and it's a fraud alert. If it happens I just put it on a different card, but that could be a problem if the person only has one card.
I would totally pay up, and give the guy another chance as long as he was apologetic. If it happened twice there would be an issue.
I always offered to pay my half from second dates on - or would pay the whole meal if he had paid the one before. No problem - I was looking for a partner, not a living cash machine.
I find the comments on here about feminism utterly ridiculous, but that's a whole different discussion.
Radical feminists who are intimidated by chivalry - Miss Independant's that must prove they are just as macho, only in feminine form. Chivalry, remember it guys? It's those women who have changed this, not the men. The wheel was not broke - the Feminists have tried to reinvent it.
Exactly. They can't receive graciously and that's what normal guys want and enjoy. They equate a dinner to obligation to sex.
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Originally Posted by wanneroo
After doing that for seven years going back to dating American women has not been fun, because many, not all, but many expect to be able to gorge themselves at my expense.
You know what, if I were on a date with you and had any idea of your lovely thoughts, I'd throw the plate right on your face! It's about the gesture, not about stupid food. I'm not very fond of restaurant food and I'm a smoker, so being in most American restaurants is torture and sacrifice to me. I don't care for your stinky dinner per se at all! Not a teeny-tiny bit! You can shove it where the sun doesn't shine for all I care!
Equal rights, equal voting, equal pay, Equal split the bill.
My mom says the liberal feminist movement has ruined it for themselves under the guise of the "modern woman can do anything" and alas they are. The big job, raising the kids, running the house, etc. with the man relegated to sperm donor and trash taker out. The roles we once had in society have now been screwed up and now no one knows what to do. Also if the woman is doing it all, they are not likely doing it well. That's her take.
The Feminists don't know me very well, or some of my friends. I do not stand aligned with them. I believe a man should be a gentleman, and a women should be a lady.
Continuing on, unrelated to the above quote. . . .
It seriously explains why a lot of men shlop-poop on being a gentleman. Too many have diverted from the ways of their Fathers and Grandfathers - the ways that worked, swooned, made a woman feel protected, loved, provided, and cared for. It's a 10,000 year old system and some wonder why the moral fiber of society deteriorates as it continues to do. There is a valuable root to the issue.
When a woman insists to pay on a first date - how is that "testosterone" in her appealing? All it is, is a woman's way to man-up. In my opinion, on a first date, IF the man wants a LADY, he should be flagging his hand into a "no" - taking that bill and not allowing her to pay anymore than he would if he were to pay the bill when out out with family or friends as a treat. You guys know what I mean, when dinner is on you in the end as a surprise- and you place your hand up as to say, "Stop. I got this one." The men in the group usually retract, put their wallets away and say, "Thanks Buddy. The next one is on me." Men back down. Men allow women to not back down. . .their backbone gets flimsy and they say, "errr aw-kay-duh" - and no one sees a problem with this? At most, the very most, it is appropriate if she is that insistent to allow her to pay the tip. But dang guys, stop tucking your thingies in between your legs, be the man - only one woman should be on the date - and it isn't you.
...ladies, if you go out on a date to a nice place and for some reason your date is unable to pay the bill. Would you get the check without wrongly thinking your date?
It might be if he was a good date, except of the lack of money. I doubt if I would go out with him again. If it were set up to be a dutch treat I would not have a problem with that.
You know what, if I were on a date with you and had any idea of your lovely thoughts, I'd throw the plate right on your face! It's about the gesture, not about stupid food. I'm not very fond of restaurant food and I'm a smoker, so being in most American restaurants is torture and sacrifice to me. I don't care for your stinky dinner per se at all! Not a teeny-tiny bit! You can shove it where the sun doesn't shine for all I care!
Food Fight!
That's okay I wasn't paying for it anyways. And I don't date smokers, sorry.
That's okay I wasn't paying for it anyways. And I don't date smokers, sorry.
I don't date jerks, either.
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It's about the gesture, not about stupid food. I'm not very fond of restaurant food and I'm a smoker, so being in most American restaurants is torture and sacrifice to me. I don't care for your stinky dinner per se at all! Not a teeny-tiny bit!
You can shove it where the sun doesn't shine for all I care!
