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Old 07-25-2009, 05:08 AM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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He cant take on all responsibility until medical science can transfer the embryo to his body or he can pay another woman to carry and deliver the child.
Fine. Then yank it out and put it into a surrogate.

You're arguing over an inconsequential vessel - the rest of us are arguing over the human being.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:18 AM
 
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He wants it & she doesnt= you are outta luck dude.
He doesnt want it & she does= no $
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Old 07-25-2009, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, TN
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Why does the father have equal responsibility but not equal rights?
That's the problem right there
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:31 PM
 
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It's really NOT that simple.

As I said in an earlier post, ask any doctor: a pregnant woman in a doctor's office is 2 patients, not 1.

It is, medically, more that just "her body."

EXACTLY my point. The only logical answer is: You either have rights AND responsibilities, or you have neither. A woman who wants a baby in spite of her partner's wishes, and still expects child support, just wants to have her cake and eat it, too.
I disagree. Child support is NOT for the woman. It's for the CHILD. And it IS her body that is carrying the child. The pregnancy and birth affects that woman more than any possible father, so the woman does, and should, have control over that pregnancy. When we get to the point where everyone is conceived in a petri dish (and I'm afraid we're not far off) then this issue will fade into oblivion.

Again, if the man (or woman) does NOT wish to support a child, then the only 100% foolproof method, is to abstain.

This whole discussion is such a sad damn commentary on our society.

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Old 07-25-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I think that before she decides to "abort" this child, she needs to discuss this with the Father. Maybe he could raise this baby, or has family that could.
This could be answered diffrently, because you don`t say if they are married, or not. I know that if they are married, with an unplanned pregnancy, the Father does have say so....not married? I guess not so much.???
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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I know that if they are married, with an unplanned pregnancy, the Father does have say so....not married?
What do you mean?! No man can have a say if the woman wants an abortion. It may have consequences like costing her the marriage, but nevertheless... there's nothing he can do about the pregnancy itself.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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What do you mean?! No man can have a say if the woman wants an abortion. It may have consequences like costing her the marriage, but nevertheless... there's nothing he can do about the pregnancy itself.
Unless things have changed that much, several years back, if they were married, the Father DID have a say.
When we found a Birthmother, we were all set, ready to go, and she made her decision that this was what she wanted. They found out that she was still married to him, and told us to just walk away, and not fight it.
That as long as they were still legally married, he had a say in this decision, and he wanted to keep the baby.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:02 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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A man can squawk all he wants to, but at the end of the day its her body and she has control over it.
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Unless things have changed that much, several years back, if they were married, the Father DID have a say.
When we found a Birthmother, we were all set, ready to go, and she made her decision that this was what she wanted. They found out that she was still married to him, and told us to just walk away, and not fight it.
That as long as they were still legally married, he had a say in this decision, and he wanted to keep the baby.
How'd they find out?

What if she didnt reveal she was married simply told them she didnt know who the father was??
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Old 07-25-2009, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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How'd they find out?

What if she didnt reveal she was married simply told them she didnt know who the father was??
It was through an adoption agency, so I`m sure they were trying to cross those T`s, and dot those I`s, before it went through, but I`m not sure how they found out, but they did. The Birthmom was young, and didn`t give all the important details. I can remember that moment, because we we all sitting together watching her songram on TV, and she found out it was a girl. We named her together, etc.... Very disappointing time.
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