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I'm glad your nightmare is over! Now you can begin the work of self-confrontation. You'll never regret the time you invest in yourself. You're gonna feel like gold and want someone who treats you that way.
I'm glad your nightmare is over! Now you can begin the work of self-confrontation. You'll never regret the time you invest in yourself. You're gonna feel like gold and want someone who treats you that way.
Its just so depressing knowing that I mAY never see her again. As much as I would like to remain friends and meet up occasionaly I think she feels akward being that she dumped her fiance and also possibly that she cheated on her fiance. Even though she said she would like to text/call still I think I'll just let her be the one to contact me.
Its just so depressing knowing that I mAY never see her again. As much as I would like to remain friends and meet up occasionaly I think she feels akward being that she dumped her fiance and also possibly that she cheated on her fiance. Even though she said she would like to text/call still I think I'll just let her be the one to contact me.
You need to let this go. Don't take her calls, texts, emails, twitters, or whatever! The more you prolong the agony, the longer it will take you to stabilize and get back on track.
You need to let this go. Don't take her calls, texts, emails, twitters, or whatever! The more you prolong the agony, the longer it will take you to stabilize and get back on track.
Well said, but whether he actually listens to and heeds all the good advice is a whole 'nother tale.
Just got back from a year long deployment to Iraq. Fiance came to see me return, have been together for 2.5 years and engaged for one. She just told me that she no longer feels "it" and after some discussion I said "So what should we do then, just call this whole thing off?" She replied with, "I think so."
I am now back in my apartment with her and her daughter, had been thinking that this was my future family, but am now with some woman and her kid in a VERY uncomfortable situation. She didn't offer the ring (which was my grandmothers engagement ring) back, and has only said "I think" whenever she mentions calling it off. I have talked to her multiple times about her feelings, but she keeps saying that "if there is nothing there, there is nothing there." She leaves to go back to the east coast (I am in WA) in four days, should I ask for the ring back if she doesn't offer it?
What you fail to understand is THIS IS THE LAW!!!!! I didn't make the rules. I didn't make this stuff up. Perhaps you would understand this better is it weren't called a "ring". Let's call it a "down payment" or a "deposit".
Here's something that I don't understand ...
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Originally Posted by Twinkle Toes
An engagement ring isn't a "gift". It is consideration for an exchange of promises. Earrings or another piece of jewelry would be a gift - but an engagement ring is not.
If a woman takes the ring from the fourth finger of her left hand and moves it to the fourth finger of her right hand, is it no longer an engagement ring and therefore now "hers"? What if the man gave her a pair of diamond earrings instead of a ring? I don't see how someone can assign ownership of a piece of jewelry based on what type of jewelry it is (ring vs. other) or where she wears it (the traditional "marriage" finger vs. other).
If a man gives a woman a diamond cocktail ring that she wears on her right hand, that's hers, but if it's an engagement ring and she wears it on her left hand, that's not hers?
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Originally Posted by Twinkle Toes
Try to think of it that way, and you will see it for what it is. I am not making this stuff up! Ask any lawyer!
Engagement rings fall under property, contract or family law, and how they are treated varies by state.
In California, it depends on who broke the engagement. For example, if the person who received the ring is the one who is reneging on the engagement, then that person must relinquish the jewelry. In New York, North Carolina, Minnesota, Tennessee and other states, appellate courts say engagement rings are conditional gifts that must be returned to the gift giver if the condition -- namely, the marriage -- does not take place, regardless of who broke off the engagement. Kansas and Montana say a gift, once given, cannot be taken back.
The other stuff you MAY get back--but good luck getting the engagement ring back. She isn't under any compulsion to return any gifts you gave her, and that's a gift.
Personally, I'd just write it all off rather than deal with the potential conflict.
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