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Old 07-08-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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yet another example of "don't do anything decent until she puts out."
I know right, what about just doing something nice just because?
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I know right, what about just doing something nice just because?

Tit for tat mentality. they don't do anything without expecting something in return (usually sex related). i rather just do for myself then.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:20 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Tit for tat mentality. they don't do anything without expecting something in return (usually sex related). i rather just do for myself then.
Yes, enjoying the company of somebody you love should be reward enough. If the sexual pleasure is your only reward might as well jerk off in your room and save the effort.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:21 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Yes, enjoying the company of somebody you love should be reward enough. If the sexual pleasure is your only reward might as well jerk off in your room and save the effort.

well that was visual.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, MD
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yet another example of "don't do anything decent until she puts out."
No! You don't do anything too elaborate because it looks desperate and it turns girls off. Imagine how you'd feel if a man on a 2nd date invited u for dinner, then had this beautiful elaborate dinner with candles and formal serving ware with lobster thermidore and baked alaska. You'd think he was desperate and pretty much looking to do u. If a guy wants to do something nice like that, he should at least wait until the girl is his actual gf and says he loves her.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:38 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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No! You don't do anything too elaborate because it looks desperate and it turns girls off. Imagine how you'd feel if a man on a 2nd date invited u for dinner, then had this beautiful elaborate dinner with candles and formal serving ware with lobster thermidore and baked alaska. You'd think he was desperate and pretty much looking to do u. If a guy wants to do something nice like that, he should at least wait until the girl is his actual gf and says he loves her.
some people go overboard to try and impress somebody. I don't know if I would necessarily assume that equals desperation. I dunno, maybe that's how other women would view it. IMO all men just want to try and get laid, so this one wouldn't be any more or less desperate then the rest, LOL.

and you didn't say he should wait until this is his gf and he loves her blah, blah. I feel you were equating doing something nice to a woman should put out and he shouldn't do anything nice like that until she does.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:01 PM
 
Location: The Present
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Girls like it when I make good meals but don't present it really nicely, that comes off as kind of gay and desperate, at least don't do that before you've already had sex. Go to one of your places and have a regular dinner, not like a really romantic atmosphere. Wine is fine but don't be like a sommelier, just pick any wine and put it in a decanter, I usually get the jug because if my date doesn't work out, I can drink it myself or use it for the next date.
ha, that's because the focus becomes more on the food rather than the date, at times like that you just have to keep it simple.

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yet another example of "don't do anything decent until she puts out."
No, that's just rewarding good behavior.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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ha, that's because the focus becomes more on the food rather than the date, at times like that you just have to keep it simple.



No, that's just rewarding good behavior.

I don't beleive in rewarding men for 'just showing up and being decent,' sorry. i know they think we should.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:11 PM
 
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No! You don't do anything too elaborate because it looks desperate and it turns girls off. Imagine how you'd feel if a man on a 2nd date invited u for dinner, then had this beautiful elaborate dinner with candles and formal serving ware with lobster thermidore and baked alaska. You'd think he was desperate and pretty much looking to do u. If a guy wants to do something nice like that, he should at least wait until the girl is his actual gf and says he loves her.
LOL! Desperate? Oh, heck, no! If anything, I'd think he might be something of a ladies man, going on the theory that every man over 30 who knows what he's doing with women has (or should have) that one go-to meal he can cook to impress a gal. I'll know it's not a gimmick when it happens twice more.
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Old 07-08-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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No! You don't do anything too elaborate because it looks desperate and it turns girls off. Imagine how you'd feel if a man on a 2nd date invited u for dinner, then had this beautiful elaborate dinner with candles and formal serving ware with lobster thermidore and baked alaska. You'd think he was desperate and pretty much looking to do u. If a guy wants to do something nice like that, he should at least wait until the girl is his actual gf and says he loves her.
So maybe you should surprise your date that you invite over to your place for dinner and not be looking for sex or expecting it?

It wasn't date #2, but it was an early date where I invited a girl over to my place for dinner and a movie. I did make a nice dinner, home made lasagna with a salad that I put together myself and made an apple crisp for dessert with vanilla ice cream. I knew that if she didn't have a good time and didn't enjoy my company, I was eating good.

She was impressed with my cooking of course. No other guy she dated made dinner for her. after the movie and we were talking, she said she was expecting me to make a move and try to get her to put out because she thought I was going t o expect something in return. I kissed her and walked her to her car and told her I wasn't that kind of guy and wished her a good night and watched her drive off.

That relationship didn't last terribly long because she moved, but we had some good times.
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