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Old 01-08-2010, 06:43 PM
 
Location: The Mango Tree
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What's funny is no one ever knocks the guys who go to strip clubs and drop a bundle on the dancers. If there wasn't a huge demand there would not be the easy money.

I love to watch sexy naked women dance but only if it's free. No use paying for it.
LOL I happen to think that the guys who hit up strip clubs on a regular basis are pretty much suckers from a business prospective. They could have saved up their money and seen an escort where they would have actually received some action!
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Old 01-08-2010, 07:04 PM
 
Location: DFW
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LOL I happen to think that the guys who hit up strip clubs on a regular basis are pretty much suckers from a business prospective. They could have saved up their money and seen an escort where they would have actually received some action!
Yes, the dancers love ya till you run out of $20 bills. It's not so sad for the ladies who are doing a tough job but what is sad is the men who spend half their paycheck for a little female attention.
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Old 01-09-2010, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Up North
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Pear Martini,

This is a great post. I seriously thought i was the only one who noticed this and that the only reason i notice is b/c i'm "past my prime" lol. You are waaay ahead of the game to notice how it seems that women and unfortunately girls are going backwards.

Pop culture has ALOT to do w/it. Awhile ago, i posted a thread in the music board about how there used to be a time when women really rocked, on their talent, not on their T&A. When i was in my 20's (90's) there were so many female artists and bands who made great music BY PLAYING INSTRUMENTS AND HAVING VOICES. They didn't wear skirts up to their necks and swing on stripper poles while lip-synching. Then 2000 rolled around, and the Brittney Spears of the world started popping up.

I'm raising a teenage son and it's extremely hard to counter the images of girls and women on tv w/my trying to raise him to see girls/women as human beings and not objects, and to have respect us. & you can't block your kids from it b/c it seems to be everywhere! I'm not giving up though. He probably gets sick of my stories and rants, but so far, i think they're working.
I'm sure if you are reminding him of these things he will be fine

Yeah, theres not to many talented female artists out there right now. As long as they have big **** and hair extensions they have careers.
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Old 01-09-2010, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Up North
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I think part of it is lack of self-esteem, but I think there are other parts to it, too. Like, wanting to keep up with everyone else and not wanting to fall behind and the basic, inescapable fact that good looks = power. The power to make people pay attention to you can open many doors. As long as there is power behind being attractive, people are ALWAYS going to want to be seen as attractive.

I'm hoping that sluttiness has a saturation factor and that eventually people will get tired of seeing slutty-looking girls and then we can go back to being a little more conservative. Honestly, seeing a slutily dressed girl no longer provokes any of my attention, there are so many of them nowadays. I think that's part of the reason Lady Gaga is so big now, yes, she dresses sort of slutty, but that's not all that she's about. It's refreshing to see someone weird rather than just showing skin.

That is so true, esp. here in Miami. More than half of the bars I went to looking for a job either take a picture of you or ask for a headshot before the interview.
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Up North
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Something has gone wrong I believe in our society. I have no problem with sexuality and sensuality but for adults only not children.

I was only in elementary school 20 years ago and back then in the sixth grade I thought a blow job was a hair cut.

Now I see teenage girls walking around looking like street hoes you see on COPS and my sister who is a substitute teacher always has a story about the foul talk and dry humping and other nonsense the 2nd graders are up to. And it's no surprise because every media outlet you see is children being sexualized.

I am no prude and I admire the female form but there is a time and place for everything and having your t*ts popping out and ass cheeks shaking around at the supermarket is not the place, nor is having your slutty 13 daughter dressed like Sally the Street Ho, the time, place or the AGE either for all that.

It is interesting that "Feminism" was supposed to bring an end to all that, but instead it is like no other time in American history.
I was in Savannah's historic district a few months ago with a friend sitting in a park. We saw this girl who may have been anywhere from 14-18 walking around with her dad. When she turned around you could see her buttcheeks!

I just cant believe her dad thinks thats okay
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Up North
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And I totally agree with you. What makes a woman has changed and not for the better.

This basically sums up what my point is... thank you
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Up North
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Great thread. Some great insights and sentiments, here. IMO, the media, the clothing manufacturer's, places like Hooters, and yes Britney Spears, all appeal to the lowest common denominator, our basest instincts. Why? Because we all have them, we are all of us sexual, and sex at least on the most accessible level is more fun than most things are. And there is just so much profit in it! After so many years of this, now it is the standard, and we have a couple generations that grew up in this environment. The same can be said of our music, our movies, television, our news. With the risk of oversimplification, I believe that nearly all our ills as a society can be traced back to the profit factor. The girls you referrence are just victims. I congratulate you for having the brains and the pride in yourself to buck the trend. That's what they are lacking. It ain't easy to swim up river.

Thanks I hope I meet some likeminded people my age at somepoint!
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Up North
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I applaud you for having this much awareness at such a young age. If you are able to shrug off the effect media has on your life, and life your life according to your own principles you will end up a much better, happier, more free person.

A good book that discusses this issue is "Reviving Ophelia".

I also invite you to critique the way todays media influences young men. What type of message does media send to young men about what type of person they should strive to be? Does this message help or harm young men?

I want to look up the book reviews. Its harder for me to be able to tell what kind of message the media sends young men. I would need some help with that one
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Up North
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The issue is you live in Miami. Hispanic influence is high and Hispanic females are not afraid to show of their bodies.
Thanks for generalizing a group that I am a part of. I am a hispanic American female and I'm not afraid to show my body but I'm not going to wear a dress that looks like a tee shirt.

Miami is 50% hispanic. We are not all the same.
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Old 01-09-2010, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Up North
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You only suffer when you allow those who judge to bring you down...and so is a choice we decide to make or rise above..

That would be like me getting all depressed and hate-like when one of my ex'es chose to date someone taller then 5' 9"...or getting offended when ..and this happened recently..some young and nieve woman thinks a guy past 25 is past his prime.. I just shrugged and responded.." you think so??...Guranteed my boys will zap any one of your eggs which gets in their way"...then got up and walked away...all the while with a smile on my face.. how was she dressed??..pretty conservatively...

Was how i chose to respond mean?..i think not..telling it like i see it??..definately

No offence to anyone, cuz i do love you all..but i am glad to be male... I mean when do you hear a guy call another guy a s**t for what he wears... or starting such threads

"Dan, i hate it when you wear that shirt that accents your biceps and chest..Ugh, what a sl*t!"...Women just seem to be their own worst enemies sometimes..

That being said, the grasshoppers do need to invest in shoes other than white sneakers...cuz women really do notice this..lol

You obviously didn't read any portion of this thread because one of the first things I said was this is not about clothes/fashion.
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