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Old 01-11-2010, 08:13 AM
 
Location: South FL
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Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks View Post
Where did I suggest you don't have a happy marriage?

Provide a quote, and a post number, or just admit that your claim is 100% false.


The fact is, I have repeatedly wished you well in your marriage. You, on the other hand...


It is absolutely AMAZING how insanely defensive some of you people are.
Please go back and re-read your comments such as: "it's obvious why you are so defensive".

Anyway, are you done yet?
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: NY metro area
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Please go back and re-read your comments such as: "it's obvious why you are so defensive".

Anyway, are you done yet?
I'm going to vote "No". I think the poster is on a crusade of some sorts.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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I haven't argued they're not true.

I'm asking YOU, as someone who is claiming all these studies as FACT, to post unbiased and legitimate data to back up your claim.
Are you REALLY incapable of looking for yourself?

Besides, I'm very familiar with this game: You want all these links. Somebody provides them, then you just say they don't mean anything.

So why not just do your own research.


Better yet, why don't YOU - and those of you who are so upset with these statistics - provide proof that says living together before marriage DECREASES the likelihood of divorce?

The incessantly defensive posture indicates nothing other than you have nothing with which to counter the facts.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:18 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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Please go back and re-read your comments such as: "it's obvious why you are so defensive".

Anyway, are you done yet?
So... I said "it's obvious why you are so defensive," and that means I think you have a bad marriage? Wow - talk about jumping to illogical and totally unrelated conclusions!


And no, I'm not done. I want you to prove that living together before marriage DECREASES the likelihood of divorce. Got any evidence to that effect?

I didn't think so!
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:19 AM
 
Location: I think my user name clarifies that.
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I'm going to vote "No". I think the poster is on a crusade of some sorts.
And what crusade would that be?
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:19 AM
 
Location: NY metro area
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Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks View Post
Are you REALLY incapable of looking for yourself?

Besides, I'm very familiar with this game: You want all these links. Somebody provides them, then you just say they don't mean anything.

So why not just do your own research.


Better yet, why don't YOU - and those of you who are so upset with these statistics - provide proof that says living together before marriage DECREASES the likelihood of divorce?

The incessantly defensive posture indicates nothing other than you have nothing with which to counter the facts.
I'm not defensive. I'm not googling this stuff because I don't really give a crap.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:21 AM
 
Location: South FL
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Originally Posted by Omaha Rocks View Post
So... I said "it's obvious why you are so defensive," and that means I think you have a bad marriage?

Wow - talk about jumping to illogical conclusions!


And no, I'm not done. I want you to prove that living together before marriage DECREASES the likelihood of divorce. Got any evidence to that effect?

I didn't think so!
Oh my gosh...are you serious? After all this, you STILL didn't get the point!?

I can't prove, simply because when it comes to relationships, I DON'T BELIEVE IN NUMBERS OR STATISTICS. This was the whole point of our argument!!!

Geez louise, some people need a map, a dictionary and a GPS to get it. Oh, wait, that won't even help.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:22 AM
 
Location: South FL
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I'm not defensive. I'm not googling this stuff because I don't really give a crap.

LOL. But obviously our poster gives a crap. I wonder why he cares so much about it? Let's turn the tables for a minute.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Beautiful New England
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I have not attacked you, I simply implied that statistics do not go into details and heart of the people, therefore cannot be taken as the word of truth.
The real problem is that people inaccurately portray statistics in order to advance an idea. Classic textbook example: the rooster crows and the sun rises; therefore, the rooster caused the sun to rise.

The old "living together leads to divorce" canard is peddled by people -- almost invariably traditionally minded folk -- who frown upon premarital sex (which is, of course, undeniable in a living together before marriage relationship). In order to promote their traditionalistic views about sex, these people usually cite the accurate statistic that couples who live together are more likely to divorce. Of course, just as with the rooster and the sun, the relationship is not as simple -- or causally related -- as it appears.

BTW, they usually play similar games about brith control: "Condoms fail!" they'll exhort people as a means of discouraging them from sex, "the only 100% safe method is abstinence." And it's true -- condoms do fail, and you can't get pregnant if you don't have sex. But they don't tell people that, if used properly, condoms work 98% of the time, and they don't tell people that very, very few people (i.e. less than 5%) are able to be happy while not having sex with their partner.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:26 AM
 
Location: NY metro area
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I noticed our OP Renee loves to start threads throughout these forums, but never contributes after the fact.

That's more interesting to me than this whole cohabiting-marriage stats stuff!
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