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Old 03-05-2010, 08:17 AM
 
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really? it is a summarization of something amy vanderbilt said.
Well, until you dredge up the actual quote, I'll have to say baloney. Even if it were not a misreading on your part, however, it doesn't make your statement any less ridiculous.
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:38 AM
 
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Well, until you dredge up the actual quote, I'll have to say baloney. Even if it were not a misreading on your part, however, it doesn't make your statement any less ridiculous.
i know, i'm just being totally ridiculous today.

twas ensconced within a dusty tome in the house where i grew up. i tore out a page, and it is coming your way in the mail. i'll need it returned.
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Way up high
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Attractive. It shows he was raised correctly.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:22 AM
 
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manners unattractive? NEVER!
growing up in a time when women are to be treated equal to men, i never expected men to open doors for me etc. but they do! i still don't ever expect it from anyone, and i find more and more that they just do it. and i thank them for it! these are strangers i am speaking of, and i find i often gain a bot of respect for them
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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Do you find manners...saying please and thank you, opening doors, pulling out chairs etc. attractive, or a sign of weakness?
I pay attention to such things and consider it a plus if people do that. But I've noticed many people say thank you just because they feel they have to, not because they mean it. So I also pay attention to how they say it. But I would definitely not see good manners as a sign of weakness. Only an insecure person would think that.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:42 AM
 
Location: My Private Island
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Do you find manners...saying please and thank you, opening doors, pulling out chairs etc. attractive, or a sign of weakness?
Good manners is what separates us from the other vile, uncivilized creatures upon the Earth! Sadly, in today's society manners are becoming extinct!

It's ironic how it can be perceived as a sign of weakness, however, when you don't show manners you are peceived as an a**? Go figure
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:56 AM
 
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i know, i'm just being totally ridiculous today.

twas ensconced within a dusty tome in the house where i grew up. i tore out a page, and it is coming your way in the mail. i'll need it returned.
In other words, "I have no idea where I got that quote."
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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manners unattractive? NEVER!
growing up in a time when women are to be treated equal to men, i never expected men to open doors for me etc. but they do! i still don't ever expect it from anyone, and i find more and more that they just do it. and i thank them for it! these are strangers i am speaking of, and i find i often gain a bot of respect for them
I ride the train often in the winter because of the weather, and it always impresses me when a man offers me his seat. I'm a modern gal, and I don't expect it, nor do I need it, (and I don't usually accept the seat,) but it's nice to be asked, you know?
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:13 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Manners are a must. Something I can't stand is when I walk by another individual, say "hey" and they ignore me.

1. Yes/no sir Yes/no ma'am.
2. Opening the door for a women or holding it open for another person.
3. Elbows off the table.
4. Speaking loudly and clearly when talking.
5. Speak when you're spoken too.

Just a few I was brought up with.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Wu Dang Mountain
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So a child who has been abused by an adult should always stand when that adult comes in the room? I doubt Emily Post would be able to answer that easily.

As with other social conventions you need to investigate them fully and see if they make sense. From what I've seen around me for the last few decades, MANY people are deciding that these "rules" don't fit into their lives, for whatever reason.

But for the OP's question, no - I don't see them as weaknesses.
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