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It seems that some people have decoupled the concept of performance with fidelity. For example, emotional cruelty and enforced abstinence for a year is considered a "problem" while a person cheating after that point is considered the bigger offense.
Emotional cruelty and enforced abstinence for a year would warrant a divorce in my book.
Aside from the fact that it would be the high road to leave, I think it would be far more strategic to leave than to cheat, because lawyers can and do have a field day with adultery. Emotional cruelty and enforced abstinence are not nearly as easy to prove as adultery, especially if the spouse suspected an affair and had the foresight to hire a private investigator.
No need to make this about me, Onglet. I'm not the one getting paid back, or desiring payback. I am saying that when people cheat, I feel no sympathy for them when they pay the price for it. They deserve it. And yes, I am allowed to make that call.
I responded directly to your post and nothing more. Isn't that why you put your opinion on this thread? I don't understand your complaint.
I would agree that cheating is not the only capital offense in marriage. Fidelity is one of those promises. Certainly some will make excuses such as being late for dinner twice in a row means I can do the neighbor.
It seems that some people have decoupled the concept of performance with fidelity. For example, emotional cruelty and enforced abstinence for a year is considered a "problem" while a person cheating after that point is considered the bigger offense.
We simply don't know the context, but fidelity is not the sole item to be held sacred in marriage. We really don't know unless we have a particular case.
But the cheating is a deception. Assuming the cheater is successfully hiding the activity, the spouse simply doesn't have the information to make a choice, as with emotional cruelty or enforced abstinence. They don't even know there IS an issue. It may be the deception that makes cheating a capital offense, in addition to the health risks involved.
Bill Clinton, Tiger Woods, and Jessie James, dudes I would think that the idea is to trade up, not down when looking for an extra-marital affair. But then again, I'm not a rich guy with a bombshell wife (she gorgeous to me, but my bias has no relationship to the real world of beauty and glamor), so I'm dying to know why you would jeopardize a relationship with a woman most guys would kill for just to go out with someone readily accessible to the average guy?
1. Regarding Bill Clinton: Hillary is certainly NOT gorgeous, her success is mostly based on being Bill Clinton's wife, and if she was so brillant, how was Bill ever to cheat on her with dozens of women such that everyone knew except Hillary?
2. Regarding Tiger: yeah Elin is gorgeous but brillant and talent? PLEASE! And the most gorgeous wife on the planet means little if she is a cold shrew. Not that I know Elin was this but if she wasn't helping out the lil' Tiger, I could see the man straying.
3. Regarding Jessie James: Bullock is a talented actress but brillant? Naaah. And yes she's attractive in that girl next door sorta way but she's getting up there and the wrinkles are showing.
For men of status who get women, well some want quality and some want quantity (and some want both). If their (supposedly) quality wife isn't supporting him, he is going to use that ability to get someone else. She may even be only average but if she's hanging on his every word and giving him the love and respect that wifey isn't, well that is what he wants.
Another good one is John Edwards. Everyone is kavecthing about in and casting Elizabeth in a sympathetic light because of her cancer. Insiders have confirmed that Lizzie is a royal b**** who tried to emasculate John every chance she got. Of course, no one brings that up but instead makes her look like an angel.
Sure, some men will stray regardless but many stray because wifey isn't getting it done at home. Interestingly, when a woman strays, it's almost always the man who is blamed for not getting the "job done in bed" and she gets "you go girl!" pats on the back.
Whatever. You don't know me from Eve, so you can think what you want. That doesn't make you correct.
Well you did open a big bag of Avienne earlier, so some of us could gather that you may have been a hair sensitive and over-reactive to the subject, just a tad.
Interestingly, when a woman strays, it's almost always the man who is blamed for not getting the "job done in bed" and she gets "you go girl!" pats on the back.
You said: "You may want to see a bit of payback to keep the world just in your eyes, but payback isn't owed to you."
I didn't SAY or even remotely imply it was owed to ME. However, you are implying that I feel that way, and you are wrong.
Again I've only responded to your direct posts on this thread, and there is nothing I've posted here that is out of line. That it makes you literally see red is a strange response, IMO, but it's yours to make.
1. Regarding Bill Clinton: Hillary is certainly NOT gorgeous, her success is mostly based on being Bill Clinton's wife, and if she was so brillant, how was Bill ever to cheat on her with dozens of women such that everyone knew except Hillary?
2. Regarding Tiger: yeah Elin is gorgeous but brillant and talent? PLEASE! And the most gorgeous wife on the planet means little if she is a cold shrew. Not that I know Elin was this but if she wasn't helping out the lil' Tiger, I could see the man straying.
3. Regarding Jessie James: Bullock is a talented actress but brillant? Naaah. And yes she's attractive in that girl next door sorta way but she's getting up there and the wrinkles are showing.
For men of status who get women, well some want quality and some want quantity (and some want both). If their (supposedly) quality wife isn't supporting him, he is going to use that ability to get someone else. She may even be only average but if she's hanging on his every word and giving him the love and respect that wifey isn't, well that is what he wants.
Another good one is John Edwards. Everyone is kavecthing about in and casting Elizabeth in a sympathetic light because of her cancer. Insiders have confirmed that Lizzie is a royal b**** who tried to emasculate John every chance she got. Of course, no one brings that up but instead makes her look like an angel.
Sure, some men will stray regardless but many stray because wifey isn't getting it done at home. Interestingly, when a woman strays, it's almost always the man who is blamed for not getting the "job done in bed" and she gets "you go girl!" pats on the back.
If you believe Hillary didn't know about Clinton's cheating, you are incredibly naive. Incredibly naive.
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I didn't SAY or even remotely imply it was owed to ME. However, you are implying that I feel that way, and you are wrong.
