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The fact is it takes two very mature and special people of the opposite sex to actually be friends and be okay with it. I've had and still remain to have guy friends who are just that, friends. Nothing ever happened with them there is no chance of anything happening at all. We met under the pretense of a friendship and kept it that way but I can't say that about all men I've encountered who wanted to be friends. A lot of men (and women) let their emotions and hormones take over and they can't just do the friend thing.
When it comes to dating though, if you are dating and you break up, just be done with it. Being friends afterwards rarely works and it usually just causes drama. In my opinion I feel when you finish a relationship it's like finishing a chapter in a book. You close that chapter and move onto the next. End of story, done.
Don't dread over this because this is an opportunity of a lifetime. Thing doesn't get much better because:
1. Since you are friends, you now have access to all her girlfriends. Not only that, you can ask her to go out and help you to hunt other girls. It's a great social proof to other girls if you already have a girl as your friend; it disarm them almost immediately.
2. It takes time for people to really decide how they feel about a person. It's a two way street and one or two dates would never cut it. Being a friend with her, you two can hang out more and get to know each other better. If you two still like each other by then and you do your escalation well, you two may still end up together.
The fact is it takes two very mature and special people of the opposite sex to actually be friends and be okay with it. I've had and still remain to have guy friends who are just that, friends. Nothing ever happened with them there is no chance of anything happening at all. We met under the pretense of a friendship and kept it that way but I can't say that about all men I've encountered who wanted to be friends. A lot of men (and women) let their emotions and hormones take over and they can't just do the friend thing.
When it comes to dating though, if you are dating and you break up, just be done with it. Being friends afterwards rarely works and it usually just causes drama. In my opinion I feel when you finish a relationship it's like finishing a chapter in a book. You close that chapter and move onto the next. End of story, done.
This I can agree with, but the problem is when you slip into the friends zone, when you really want a lot more, and when you try to steer the ship back in the right direction again she answers "let's just be friends". here I'd say it's pretty much the same as your case nr 2 with the break-up.
There is a huge difference between when you are friends with the opposite sex and when your are "friends" while wanting more.
This I can agree with, but the problem is when you slip into the friends zone, when you really want a lot more, and when you try to steer the ship back in the right direction again she answers "let's just be friends". here I'd say it's pretty much the same as your case nr 2 with the break-up.
There is a huge difference between when you are friends with the opposite sex and when your are "friends" while wanting more.
Which is why you always get stuck in the "friends zone." :-) Let me re-phrase that, I like the friends zone and before I sleep with a girl, I like her to be my friend first. :-) I frankly do not see anything wrong with sleeping with your female friends. :-)
Here is what it should say :"Which is why you always get stuck in the "no sex zone."
Thats what I mean with the "friend-zone" a friend you have sex with is a "friend with benefits", I loved when I had that kind of a "friend".
But I see all we do here is exchanging definitions...
Thats what I mean with the "friend-zone" a friend you have sex with is a "friend with benefits", I loved when I had that kind of a "friend".
But I see all we do here is exchanging definitions...
I did tell you what to do but I guess you didn't read.
Man, if guys would just focus on maximizing their own potential in life - physically, emotionally, intellectually, and spiritually, and going for their dreams, kind of like a renaissance man, except that you are financially successful and passionate in whatever you do, you'd have to beat the women off with a stick, and you'd never have to worry about rejection or friends, cause you'd have all the women you could handle.
That's why if a guy has not optimized himself, his chances of getting rejected are much higher.
Ohhh... but it's too much work to be exemplary. Give us mediocrity. we're just sooooooooooooooooooooo lonely and we need love.
Don't dread over this because this is an opportunity of a lifetime. Thing doesn't get much better because:
1. Since you are friends, you now have access to all her girlfriends. Not only that, you can ask her to go out and help you to hunt other girls. It's a great social proof to other girls if you already have a girl as your friend; it disarm them almost immediately.
2. It takes time for people to really decide how they feel about a person. It's a two way street and one or two dates would never cut it. Being a friend with her, you two can hang out more and get to know each other better. If you two still like each other by then and you do your escalation well, you two may still end up together.
Hi YourNotStupid,
A very useful resource. Female preselection is a pillar.
Man, if guys would just focus on maximizing their own potential in life - physically, emotionally, intellectually, and spiritually, and going for their dreams, kind of like a renaissance man, except that you are financially successful and passionate in whatever you do, you'd have to beat the women off with a stick, and you'd never have to worry about rejection or friends, cause you'd have all the women you could handle.
That's why if a guy has not optimized himself, his chances of getting rejected are much higher.
Ohhh... but it's too much work to be exemplary. Give us mediocrity. we're just sooooooooooooooooooooo lonely and we need love.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
lol.
I have seen unoptimized guys of all ages beating women off with a stick.
Not denying your premise.
Just saying the dynamics of human relations are not always working on the most practical path.
Man, if guys would just focus on maximizing their own potential in life - physically, emotionally, intellectually, and spiritually, and going for their dreams, kind of like a renaissance man, except that you are financially successful and passionate in whatever you do, you'd have to beat the women off with a stick, and you'd never have to worry about rejection or friends, cause you'd have all the women you could handle.
That's why if a guy has not optimized himself, his chances of getting rejected are much higher.
Ohhh... but it's too much work to be exemplary. Give us mediocrity. we're just sooooooooooooooooooooo lonely and we need love.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Total misunderstanding here. Do you even know what attracts women?
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