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Old 06-16-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Secretive or private? I'm not going to blurt out every little detail about my personal life to everyone. I go on a case by case basis.

Some of us just aren't open books. There's nothing wrong with that.
Women even keep their most secret sexual fantasies away from their men.

Women are known to lie about their sexual history, that's all I am saying.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:03 PM
 
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Women even keep their most secret sexual fantasies away from their men.

Women are known to lie about their sexual history, that's all I am saying.
Men are known to lie about their sexual histories too...women lie to skew their sexual encounters downward, and men tend to lie to skew their sexual encounters upward...Not saying that you're wrong at all...you're absolutely right...just thought Id say that before someone else did
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Men are known to lie about their sexual histories too...women lie to skew their sexual encounters downward, and men tend to lie to skew their sexual encounters upward...Not saying that you're wrong at all...you're absolutely right...just thought Id say that before someone else did
Of course solytaire!

I love you!
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Old 06-16-2010, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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That would just mean that she is more likely to cheat because she has more options.
A fine example of bi-phobic statement without someone knowing it.

It's kind of insulting because it stereotypes bisexuals as being promiscuous users who use people for their own sexual gratifications.

I am not meaning to pick on you or single you out. Many, many people feel this way, and that's okay.

But this is a fine example of an unfair generalization and proves bisexuals face as much, if not more, discrimination in both the gay and straight world.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:45 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Because physical male intimacy is frowned upon in the West in general society the only social space for male intimacy is the gay space which is a feminine space...In non-western countries men can hold hands
in public and still be considered masculine...it is not that they are dating its is that they are best or life-
long friends or just friends, it is a tribal thing..

It is the American cultural hysteria of being associated with the "gay social space"...
Weird I don't consider gay sex very feminine at all. In some ways it seems more macho than straight sex.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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EVERYONE should read Nancy Friday's books where ALL sexual fantasies are written about first hand. Even better, I think couples should sit down and read them aloud together( I have). Responses are usually a surprise. Then again, NO fantasies should be secretive and if something is good enough to be a fantasy, it should become a reality. Always had men that accepted this first hand with me.

And I actually saw my first gay male porn at the age of 15 and a gay guy at work showed me his $35 magazines. Well,,,, let's just say I couldn't believe it and other visuals have stuck with me to this day. Who am I to judge and some visuals made me curious. Luckily I just flat out asked any gay friends I had with any questions. When you ask in seeking knowledge, people tell. If you are asking to judge???? Another story. I think we should all seek to understand the next person and not judge them
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Ca2Mo2Ga2Va!
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of course it's a double standard lol....I don't know why, but that's how it is, even for me...I don't mind two women (of course they have to be attractive lol) but two men, blah! Now I have nothing against gay people at all, just talking from a sexual standpoint, as if it had something to do with me lol
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: syracuse ny
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I've been thinking of something.

Women can be openly bisexual and men still want to be with them with few reservations. But if a man says he is bisexual (or even bicurious) women won't come anywhere near him (especially in the black community.)

Now I personally feel this is a double standard. I wonder why this stigma against bisexual men exists. I know the STDs play a role.

(Disclaimer: I'm a straight male.)
You know I really think this is a stigma in mens minds. Along the lines of men seem to be willing to admit they don't mind it, far more readily.

I think women try to ignore a males sexuality more in the belief they can get the male to come on over. A number of affeminate stars have large numbers of female ga-ga followers. Most start out denying that they're at least Bi, and when they do it really doesn't seem to affect their legions of female fans. Clay Aiken? On the other hand, Melissa Etheridge has male fans, but you just don't see them standing in the front row going "Melissa you're so hot, I love yooooooooo"
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:54 PM
 
Location: NYC
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A fine example of bi-phobic statement without someone knowing it.

It's kind of insulting because it stereotypes bisexuals as being promiscuous users who use people for their own sexual gratifications.

I am not meaning to pick on you or single you out. Many, many people feel this way, and that's okay.

But this is a fine example of an unfair generalization and proves bisexuals face as much, if not more, discrimination in both the gay and straight world.
Many, many people feel this way about bisexual men because there are many, many bisexual men out there like this guy:

//www.city-data.com/forum/relationships/865515-my-marriage-my-bisexuality-long.html



I have only met one bisexual man who actually romantically dated both sexes. All of the others i have met, their bisexuality was about personal orgasms and nothing more. They look at being bi as an excuse to have sex anytime they want with whomever they want, based on their "orientation" and nothing more. It grosses people out, and that's why everyone else gets a bad rap.
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:23 PM
 
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It’s a double standard because women’s bodies have always been sexualized throughout history and the current media compared to men. In addition, the proliferation of porn has reinforced the common lesbian fantasies that many men have. After all, the biggest consumers of porn are men and the biggest consumers of lesbian style porn—are men. Therefore it is obvious that this is what men want to see-- therefore women who are attention wh*res will use this fantasy hook to attract male attention. The book Female Chauvinists Pigs talks about the raunch culture that women engage in order to attract male attention and attempting to be bicurious or bi is just a signal to men that she is sexually open and does not necessarily follow that they are truly bi-sexual.

Even though sexuality is fluid for many people, there are very few people that are truly bi-sexual (people that are truly homosexual comprise less than 10% and true bisexuals are even smaller) in which they are attracted to both sexes equally. So men should either blame porn or be flattered at the girls who are pawing at each other so openly—since all that exhibitionism is just for the men’s benefit.
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