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I don't have to trust that a man won't cheat on me. I have to trust I will have the wisdom and the courage to walk away if he does cheat. It really is more about me trusting myself with this man.
Keep women and men answers separately, please. Add comment if you like but I'd like to see if anyone really has faith in men, including themselves.
I have faith in myself, and I have faith in my oldest son. As a business owner, I had six women working for me. Most of them were older ladies (by older I mean 40-60 years of age), and I had only one that was married. I had ample opportunity to get involved with everyone of them. They all liked me because I was kind to them and generous with bonus payments. I was propositioned only by one of these gals who left nothing to my imagination. Even the married one hinted of fun and games. I laughed off all the comments and suggestions and acted as though nothing had been said. As for my son, he has been in a marrage now that has lasted over twenty years. His wife could be an absolute great person if she would just allow her self to be so. But early in their marrage she dicided 'no SOB is going to treat me like my father treats my mother', so she over reacted. She does very little around the house, he does most of the cooking, quite a bit of the cleaning, thier two kids do laundry and some inside cleaning. The wife may as well stay in bed until noon and eat bon bons. She is very talented as an artist and with decorating, she has outstanding computer skills, even better than their own hired tax people who ask for her help. But she thinks it is her right to make all the business decisions. She has a pay check from the business, but no real job. She feels she has the right to tell her husband what he can and can't buy. My son said she has with held sex going on six years now. He has not strayed, even though he has had opportunity time and again. He told me last week he has reached the point where enough is enough and that this summer he is going to visit Reno with $400 in his hand, and has already picked out the lady. So, until this summer gets here, I know two guys that have had the chance and turned it down.
What do you mean, "doing a quickie"? A quickie, to me, is sex.
As much as I may love her, as much as she turns me on, the female form is too intoxicating for me to ignore. When I am with a girlfriend, and it is good, I rarely need to do a self induced quickie, but sometimes there is need. Too much of the same thing gets boring, no matter how hot she is, but a fantasy compared to physical cheating I define as different.
If anything going away from the normal (her), makes me want to get back to the normal (her).
I have faith in myself, and I have faith in my oldest son. As a business owner, I had six women working for me. Most of them were older ladies (by older I mean 40-60 years of age), and I had only one that was married. I had ample opportunity to get involved with everyone of them. They all liked me because I was kind to them and generous with bonus payments. I was propositioned only by one of these gals who left nothing to my imagination. Even the married one hinted of fun and games. I laughed off all the comments and suggestions and acted as though nothing had been said. As for my son, he has been in a marrage now that has lasted over twenty years. His wife could be an absolute great person if she would just allow her self to be so. But early in their marrage she dicided 'no SOB is going to treat me like my father treats my mother', so she over reacted. She does very little around the house, he does most of the cooking, quite a bit of the cleaning, thier two kids do laundry and some inside cleaning. The wife may as well stay in bed until noon and eat bon bons. She is very talented as an artist and with decorating, she has outstanding computer skills, even better than their own hired tax people who ask for her help. But she thinks it is her right to make all the business decisions. She has a pay check from the business, but no real job. She feels she has the right to tell her husband what he can and can't buy. My son said she has with held sex going on six years now. He has not strayed, even though he has had opportunity time and again. He told me last week he has reached the point where enough is enough and that this summer he is going to visit Reno with $400 in his hand, and has already picked out the lady. So, until this summer gets here, I know two guys that have had the chance and turned it down.
Wow, your son must be living a miserable life with this woman. I hope one day he can find happiness and it doesn't have to resort to such measures for intimacy/sex.
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Originally Posted by Nite Ryder
I have faith in myself, and I have faith in my oldest son. As a business owner, I had six women working for me. Most of them were older ladies (by older I mean 40-60 years of age), and I had only one that was married. I had ample opportunity to get involved with everyone of them. They all liked me because I was kind to them and generous with bonus payments. I was propositioned only by one of these gals who left nothing to my imagination. Even the married one hinted of fun and games. I laughed off all the comments and suggestions and acted as though nothing had been said. As for my son, he has been in a marrage now that has lasted over twenty years. His wife could be an absolute great person if she would just allow her self to be so. But early in their marrage she dicided 'no SOB is going to treat me like my father treats my mother', so she over reacted. She does very little around the house, he does most of the cooking, quite a bit of the cleaning, thier two kids do laundry and some inside cleaning. The wife may as well stay in bed until noon and eat bon bons. She is very talented as an artist and with decorating, she has outstanding computer skills, even better than their own hired tax people who ask for her help. But she thinks it is her right to make all the business decisions. She has a pay check from the business, but no real job. She feels she has the right to tell her husband what he can and can't buy. My son said she has with held sex going on six years now. He has not strayed, even though he has had opportunity time and again. He told me last week he has reached the point where enough is enough and that this summer he is going to visit Reno with $400 in his hand, and has already picked out the lady. So, until this summer gets here, I know two guys that have had the chance and turned it down.
I do believe someone can be driven to cheating. We are human and can only take so much. Not excusing it, just saying what people do--particularly those closest to us--does have an effect on us in many ways. So, if you're married (even if you're not but particularly if you are) best to make it a good effect.
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Wow. Looks unanimous. I voted yes but I have to admit, I was taken aback by the news of my friends infidelity. I always wondered if she's as lucky as I suspected by having him. He said he's been telling her for years he can only take so many not-tonights and has asked her if it's his performance, and if so, what he could do to make it better for her. Just the kind of man I always suspected he was--very giving. But now he's giving it to someone else.
I have faith in myself, and I have faith in my oldest son. As a business owner, I had six women working for me. Most of them were older ladies (by older I mean 40-60 years of age), and I had only one that was married. I had ample opportunity to get involved with everyone of them. They all liked me because I was kind to them and generous with bonus payments. I was propositioned only by one of these gals who left nothing to my imagination. Even the married one hinted of fun and games. I laughed off all the comments and suggestions and acted as though nothing had been said. As for my son, he has been in a marrage now that has lasted over twenty years. His wife could be an absolute great person if she would just allow her self to be so. But early in their marrage she dicided 'no SOB is going to treat me like my father treats my mother', so she over reacted. She does very little around the house, he does most of the cooking, quite a bit of the cleaning, thier two kids do laundry and some inside cleaning. The wife may as well stay in bed until noon and eat bon bons. She is very talented as an artist and with decorating, she has outstanding computer skills, even better than their own hired tax people who ask for her help. But she thinks it is her right to make all the business decisions. She has a pay check from the business, but no real job. She feels she has the right to tell her husband what he can and can't buy. My son said she has with held sex going on six years now. He has not strayed, even though he has had opportunity time and again. He told me last week he has reached the point where enough is enough and that this summer he is going to visit Reno with $400 in his hand, and has already picked out the lady. So, until this summer gets here, I know two guys that have had the chance and turned it down.
You sound stellar but what does your son's wife think about his plans to Reno? Does she approve or is she in the dark about it? If she doesn't know about it, I'd deduct points from your son's character.
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Simple Yes or No answer
