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Old 07-23-2010, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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That is nice of you to say. Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of people who don't seem to believe it.
From a Christian perspective, it's not Biblical.
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Old 07-23-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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From a Christian perspective, it's not Biblical.
I wish the fundamentalists would lose the arrogance and say what they mean . . . "This is not how WE interpret the bible."
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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I wish the fundamentalists would lose the arrogance and say what they mean . . . "This is not how WE interpret the bible."
Blimey!!! That's the first thing you've said that I agree with. Bravo!
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I used to base my belief on that. While I still believe in God and heaven/hell, my reason for my conviction is that this life has deeper meaning. Yes, science may think evolution is valid. But what is the point of surviving or evolving from a single cell only to die? I mean it evolves into these magnificent mutations only to die? Suffering for nothing? While evolution has a logical reason for the beginning/formation of life, religion has a deeper meaning of end of life.
Yes, it's too bad the eternal life religions claim is just a nice myth, isn't it?
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Old 07-24-2010, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Planet Water
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Let's finish it. The religious myth is a myth about good resolves of God. Sacred fathers during last years did not read the bible. Books were expensive, rare and heavy. Priests used abstracts. is a lot of predictions for mission coming are written after death of the person "Jesus". Almost all pupils never saw Jesus. Pavel has created religion to use it for the corporate purposes ( In Bibles it ). The rest - imaginations of Sacred Fathers. Also it is possible to find plagiarism in the bible . Sinners (not true) are people which lives , the human values, the government, independence have...
The selected people are a meat for a gun to take away values from independent people and to bring to God and its preachers and
To receive hope of a rich life and another's earth and a part of the stolen property. The bible - a military management.

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Old 07-24-2010, 05:37 AM
 
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I used to base my belief on that. While I still believe in God and heaven/hell, my reason for my conviction is that this life has deeper meaning. Yes, science may think evolution is valid. But what is the point of surviving or evolving from a single cell only to die? I mean it evolves into these magnificent mutations only to die? Suffering for nothing? While evolution has a logical reason for the beginning/formation of life, religion has a deeper meaning of end of life.
Doesn't even strike a note with you that each and every form of life on the planet has the death limitation does it? From microscopic life forms to the human species each one has to take in some kind of nutrition, excrete waste and have a beginning and an end. That's the reason for all religious belief...mankind's inability to accept his mortal fate. In other words thousands of years ago when primitive mankind had to view all forms of dead remains laying around smelling up the place his developing imagination conjured a better end to his own story. Now death is totally hidden from most of us and only those who make a living from it have to deal with the gory details. If each new generation of children had not been taught religion by their parents and had it reinforced by the authority figures in their lives none of it would make a lick of sense.

Most of us heard the off microphone comments made by Barack Obama about common folks clinging to their religion and guns during hard times but as I'm sure you've noticed...now it's "God Bless You And God Bless The United States of America." Politicians are very smart. They're smart enough to know that when 80+ percent of the country has a belief in religion they had damn sure better honor their beliefs in some way or pack it up and ship out. You couldn't tell it by the way they live their lives though. Most of them don't bat an eye before they commit our young men and women to foreign countries to wage war and kill innocent civilians called collaterals. George W. Bush even said he prayed for weeks and that god told him to invade Iraq. 'Course C students more than likely actually believe that collection of fairy tales.

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Old 07-24-2010, 07:30 AM
 
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Doesn't even strike a note with you that each and every form of life on the planet has the death limitation does it? From microscopic life forms to the human species each one has to take in some kind of nutrition, excrete waste and have a beginning and an end. That's the reason for all religious belief...mankind's inability to accept his mortal fate. In other words thousands of years ago when primitive mankind had to view all forms of dead remains laying around smelling up the place his developing imagination conjured a better end to his own story. Now death is totally hidden from most of us and only those who make a living from it have to deal with the gory details. If each new generation of children had not been taught religion by their parents and had it reinforced by the authority figures in their lives none of it would make a lick of sense.

Most of us heard the off microphone comments made by Barack Obama about common folks clinging to their religion and guns during hard times but as I'm sure you've noticed...now it's "God Bless You And God Bless The United States of America." Politicians are very smart. They're smart enough to know that when 80+ percent of the country has a belief in religion they had damn sure better honor their beliefs in some way or pack it up and ship out. You couldn't tell it by the way they live their lives though. Most of them don't bat an eye before they commit our young men and women to foreign countries to wage war and kill innocent civilians called collaterals. George W. Bush even said he prayed for weeks and that god told him to invade Iraq. 'Course C students more than likely actually believe that collection of fairy tales.




"You couldn't tell it by the way they live their lives though. Most of them don't bat an eye before they commit our young men and women to foreign countries to wage war and kill innocent civilians called collaterals."

They lack moral values. Glad to see you recognize that.


Moral Values
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:06 AM
 
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"You couldn't tell it by the way they live their lives though. Most of them don't bat an eye before they commit our young men and women to foreign countries to wage war and kill innocent civilians called collaterals."

They lack moral values. Glad to see you recognize that.
They do not need moral values. A little prayer to Hey Zeus each night before they fall asleep takes care of anything(including murder) they did that day. Do it each day and VOILA!! On Their Way To The Pearly Gates!

The scriptures teach that blasphemy against the holy spirit(not believing) is the only sin that cannot be forgiven.
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: PA
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The book says Christians are the only ones who will rise up from the grave, float away on a cloud, pass through pearly gates, walk streets paved with gold, have a meal prepared for them by the creator etc. Then I suppose all of you good buddies can watch those who are sceaming and burning for after dinner entertainment. Is that about right?
Since the people in hell have rejected Christ and his so great salvation, we will look upon them, but not for entertainment and not in sorrow. We will see that God is just and that he will do what he said. The righteous will spend eternity with him and the unrighteous will perish.

It is written: For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

There is a perishing if we do not accept Jesus Christ.
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Old 07-25-2010, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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. George W. Bush even said he prayed for weeks and that god told him to invade Iraq. 'Course C students more than likely actually believe that collection of fairy tales.
That's the wierd thing about America....anyone can become President, even idiots! Where I come from you can't hold public office if you're insane....or even vote.
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