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"Rising Republican star Paul Ryan has been condemned by Catholic leaders for saying his controversial budget plan was inspired by church teaching.
Faculty members and priests at Georgetown University said they could not condone a spending plan they warned would hurt society's most vulnerable."
I think more people who call themselves "Christians" should remember Jesus' words--"What you do unto the least of these you do unto me." So you can choose to have your taxes pay to kill thru miltary might. Thru execution of criminals. Or by not providing basic health care to the sick. But for a group of people who seem so worried about thier souls and eternity, you sure are hypocrites when it comes to doing what your "savior" asked you to do!!
paul ryan is about as much of a catholic as richard dawkins
to be a catholic in the true and original sense , you must be in favour of redistribution of wealth in a big way , ryan should join one of those baptist churches which are right wing on economic issues , classic catholicism is left wing on economic issues
Gee it seems the religious thread is turning into the political thread, in this case, let's bash Paul Ryan....I guess if in order to be a good Catholic one must believe in the distribution of wealth, there are only a handful of really good Catholics?? What about the Catholics that practice birth contol? Are they all bad Catholics in your mind? I bet that is a different story, huh?
Gee it seems the religious thread is turning into the political thread, in this case, let's bash Paul Ryan....I guess if in order to be a good Catholic one must believe in the distribution of wealth, there are only a handful of really good Catholics?? What about the Catholics that practice birth contol? Are they all bad Catholics in your mind? I bet that is a different story, huh?
Nita
Do you work at being this obtuse or does it just come naturally?
That's the issue -- It's not whether or not Ryan is a 'good Catholic', it's that he wraps his arms around the church whenever convenient to justify his policies, thereby inviting his policies to be judged on a Catholic basis. Try actually paying attention for once.
Of course, it's Paul Ryan, who can't decide if the 'wisdom' of Ayn Rand is "sorely needed"...
It doesn't surprise me that sales of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged have surged lately with the Obama administration coming in because it's that kind of thinking, that kind of writing, that is sorely needed right now. And I think a lot of people would observe that we are right now living in an Ayn Rand novel, metaphorically speaking. [...] Ayn Rand, more than anyone else, did a fantastic job of explaining the morality of capitalism, the morality of individualism, and this to me is what matters most. It is not enough to say that President Obama's taxes are too big or the health care plan doesn't work for this or that policy reason. It is the morality of what is occurring right now and how it offends the morality of individuals working toward their own free will to produce, to achieve, to succeed, that is under attack. And it is that what I think Ayn Rand would be commenting on, which we need that kind of comment more than ever.
I reject her philosophy [...] It’s an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. If somebody is going to try to paste a person’s view on epistemology to me, then give me Thomas Aquinas [...] Don’t give me Ayn Rand.
Par for the course for Ryan...
Last edited by Green Onions; 04-26-2012 at 03:50 PM..
Gee it seems the religious thread is turning into the political thread, in this case, let's bash Paul Ryan....I guess if in order to be a good Catholic one must believe in the distribution of wealth, there are only a handful of really good Catholics?? What about the Catholics that practice birth contol? Are they all bad Catholics in your mind? I bet that is a different story, huh?
Nita
classic catholicism is in favour of the redistribution of wealth , contraception is not relevant to the thread title , paul ryan has drawn attention to himself with his hypocritical phoney catholicism
Many of us were surprised the bishops rejected it, I heard originally they didn't but had a change of heart, they usually go along with the republican party..
Many of us were surprised the bishops rejected it, I heard originally they didn't but had a change of heart, they usually go along with the republican party..
why would catholic bishops go along with a party which is quintesentially WASP, sh ?
That's the issue -- It's not whether or not Ryan is a 'good Catholic', it's that he wraps his arms around the church whenever convenient to justify his policies, thereby inviting his policies to be judged on a Catholic basis. Try actually paying attention for once.
Of course, it's Paul Ryan, who can't decide if the 'wisdom' of Ayn Rand is "sorely needed"...
I am not questioning his policies right now, I was responding to the poster who said Paul was not a good Catholic beause good Catholics believe in spreading the wealth, did you read the posting carefully that I was referring to? That was my only point...nothing more, nothing less.
I am not questioning his policies right now, I was responding to the poster who said Paul was not a good Catholic beause good Catholics believe in spreading the wealth, did you read the posting carefully that I was referring to? That was my only point...nothing more, nothing less.
Where did i say that? I said "For those that are interested", linked the article and then linked a couple of paragraphs from the article. Where exactly have i offered an opinion?
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