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Old 08-14-2010, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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As was, I suppose, the sex that must have transpired between Cain and his mother or sister.

Ahhhh! A gift from god.
You obviously have a reading comprehension problem.
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Old 08-14-2010, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Aren't you forgetting, a horny heterosexual will turn gay one night, have random unprotected sex, then get the disease, turn straight again then give it to their partner.

That's how the anti gays will respond. What's interesting is that there's been some talk on here of trying to find 'strategies' to keep homosexuals celibate because sodomy and fornication are the world's great evils(again the anti gay belief) but there are many heterosexuals whom engage in premarital, anal and oral sex. Mind you responsible sex, in any form will highly decrease, if not nearly eliminate, one's chances of contracting the disease. Interesting that posters like Nikk and Campbell talk about how it's because people aren't following the bible, yet most atheists, agnostics and other non christians aren't promiscuous and don't have an STD.
They're really just flipping crap in a futile attempt to try and 'justify' their prejudices.
Good point...I think it would be safe to say that the vast majority of people infected with aids and other STDs in the US are indeed Christians.

It has nothing to do with the following the bible or not.
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Old 08-14-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Good point...I think it would be safe to say that the vast majority of people infected with aids and other STDs in the US are indeed Christians.

It has nothing to do with the following the bible or not.
Is there any data to support your assertion?
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Old 08-14-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Is there any data to support your assertion?
Well the states with the highest rates of STDs are mostly in the bible belt, so what do you think? STD statistics for the USA

Here are the AIDS statistics by state and city... http://www.avert.org/usa-states-cities.htm
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Old 08-14-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Well the states with the highest rates of STDs are mostly in the bible belt, so what do you think? STD statistics for the USA

Here are the AIDS statistics by state and city... AIDS & HIV statistics for the USA by state and city
I think this data does very little to support your absurd claim:

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I think it would be safe to say that the vast majority of people infected with aids and other STDs in the US are indeed Christians.
BTW, how would you know who were the Christians?
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Old 08-14-2010, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I think this data does very little to support your absurd claim:



BTW, how would you know who were the Christians?
Get real...75% of the US population are Christians, so it's only logical that they would also be the majority of people with AIDS....You are making yourself look worse than foolish.
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Old 08-14-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Get real...75% of the US population are Christians, so it's only logical that they would also be the majority of people with AIDS....You are making yourself look worse than foolish.
What makes a person a Christian? Do you believe 75% of Americans live Christlike lives?
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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What makes a person a Christian? Do you believe 75% of Americans live Christlike lives?
As I suspected...Those with AIDS or any other STDs are not "true" Christians...What an old and tired cop out...
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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What makes a person a Christian? Do you believe 75% of Americans live Christlike lives?
There are many versions of what christian circles think of what is christlike. Look at the differences between liberals and fundamentalists or protestants and catholics or moderates and staunch conservatives. Even within two christians whom belong to the same denomination have their view of what is christlike. You and someone like Campbell probably have very different views of what is christlike. Or look at the difference between an evangelical like Nikk compared to someone like John Shelby. One thinks that their version of christianity is the only and everyone whom doesn't follow their way should be punished. The other wants society top be run without a religiously motivated government. Both will say they are living christlike lives.

The point of this is that every christian has their version of what is christlike. 75% of Americans consider themselves to be living a christlike life. The parent that beats their kid because they think god tells them to considers themselves to be living a christlike life. The christian that is kind to their children thinks they are living a living a christlike. It seems that the christlike argument is more of a 'no true scotsman' fallacy.
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Old 08-14-2010, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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As I suspected...Those with AIDS or any other STDs are not "true" Christians...What an old and tired cop out...
This reminds me of something. If christians are going to say that those with AIDS and other STDs are not true christians, then atheists can say that a professed atheist with AIDs or some other STD are, in actuality, not true atheists.
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