Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 08-17-2010, 07:35 AM
 
17,842 posts, read 14,381,370 times
Reputation: 4113

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Campbell34 View Post
Of course you can pick and choose what you want to believe in the Scriptures. Yet if you are going to do that. Why believe any of it?

And there are some who will say there is a gay gene, yet there are an equal number in science who will say such findings are nonsense.

And since all sexual experiences orginate in the mind anyway. That would be the best place to begin to explain how people follow the lifestyle they do. Now in the Scriptures it states that outside of one's own mental motivation, there is another force out there that motivates people to do the things they do. A force that neither science or man can measure. Yet that force exist according to the Scriptures, and is diametrically opposed to the teachings of the Bible. When I was 23 years old many years ago, I had a six month encounter with two beings that were members of that force. Their names were Abjar, and Altra. At the age of 23, I don't believe I thought their existance was possible in our time. I believed the Biblical account, yet I though such things only happend thousands of years ago. These were modern times. However I soon discovered that those stories that spoke of demons in the Bible were true. And demons are a reality, even in our time. And that was a real shock for a 23 year old guy like me. These encounters lasted for 6 months, and only after I met some other Christians was I able to rid myself of them. Such beings do exist, and they are the one's who are pushing the gay lifestyle. And they do this, because this lifestyle is in opposition to the Scriptures. And this is just one more way for the enemies of God, to attack God's creation. And if you ignore the Bible, such a reality will only seem like a myth to you. In my sixty years here on earth, I have had some real experiences with both the God of the Bible, and the demons that oppose Him.
Sounds like psychosis to me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-17-2010, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
4,883 posts, read 6,210,831 times
Reputation: 822
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaymax View Post
I think there is 3rd group: People who choose to remain ignorant and bigoted despite all evidence to the contrary and who don't really think for themselves but blindly follow the rantings of people from the first 2 groups.
Which are better known as....THE SHEEPLE!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-17-2010, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
4,904 posts, read 6,014,889 times
Reputation: 3533
This whole idea purported by anti gays that homosexuality has killed millions of people is a blatant lie. They're assuming AIDS and homosexuality are the same. Get it right anti gays; AIDS has killed millions of people, not homosexuality. And FYI, using a condom when engaging in anal sex drastically reduces the risk of contracting HIV. Keeping a person celibate is like trying to put spots on a tiger. Instead of working to keep homosexuals or heterosexuals for that matter celibate, work to provide an adequate sex education. Drug users, heterosexuals and prostitutes also contract AIDS. Drug users and prostitutes are two of the groups whom have the highest risk of contracting AIDS. Maybe you should work on teaching drug users to use clean instead of used needles. Why not try and curb promiscuity. This doesn't mean trying to get someone to accept the false belief that anal sex and fornication are wrong. It means teaching people that a promiscuous lifestyle increases the risk of contracting HIV. There are many monogamous homosexuals and many promiscuous heterosexuals. Homosexual/lesbian/heterosexual sexual behavior isn't inherently wrong or lead to AIDS. It's irresponsible sex(not using contraception, promiscuity) and unclean drug needles that leads to(or heightening the risk) of contracting the virus.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-17-2010, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
15,395 posts, read 22,521,282 times
Reputation: 11134
Quote:
Originally Posted by agnostic soldier View Post
This whole idea purported by anti gays that homosexuality has killed millions of people is a blatant lie. They're assuming AIDS and homosexuality are the same. Get it right anti gays; AIDS has killed millions of people, not homosexuality. And FYI, using a condom when engaging in anal sex drastically reduces the risk of contracting HIV. Keeping a person celibate is like trying to put spots on a tiger. Instead of working to keep homosexuals or heterosexuals for that matter celibate, work to provide an adequate sex education. Drug users, heterosexuals and prostitutes also contract AIDS. Drug users and prostitutes are two of the groups whom have the highest risk of contracting AIDS. Maybe you should work on teaching drug users to use clean instead of used needles. Why not try and curb promiscuity. This doesn't mean trying to get someone to accept the false belief that anal sex and fornication are wrong. It means teaching people that a promiscuous lifestyle increases the risk of contracting HIV. There are many monogamous homosexuals and many promiscuous heterosexuals. Homosexual/lesbian/heterosexual sexual behavior isn't inherently wrong or lead to AIDS. It's irresponsible sex(not using contraception, promiscuity) and unclean drug needles that leads to(or heightening the risk) of contracting the virus.
Well written and TRUTHFUL!!!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-17-2010, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
21,192 posts, read 25,163,225 times
Reputation: 22276
Quote:
Originally Posted by agnostic soldier View Post
This whole idea purported by anti gays that homosexuality has killed millions of people is a blatant lie. They're assuming AIDS and homosexuality are the same. Get it right anti gays; AIDS has killed millions of people, not homosexuality. And FYI, using a condom when engaging in anal sex drastically reduces the risk of contracting HIV. Keeping a person celibate is like trying to put spots on a tiger. Instead of working to keep homosexuals or heterosexuals for that matter celibate, work to provide an adequate sex education. Drug users, heterosexuals and prostitutes also contract AIDS. Drug users and prostitutes are two of the groups whom have the highest risk of contracting AIDS. Maybe you should work on teaching drug users to use clean instead of used needles. Why not try and curb promiscuity. This doesn't mean trying to get someone to accept the false belief that anal sex and fornication are wrong. It means teaching people that a promiscuous lifestyle increases the risk of contracting HIV. There are many monogamous homosexuals and many promiscuous heterosexuals. Homosexual/lesbian/heterosexual sexual behavior isn't inherently wrong or lead to AIDS. It's irresponsible sex(not using contraception, promiscuity) and unclean drug needles that leads to(or heightening the risk) of contracting the virus.
You speaketh the truth, oh agnostic soldier.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-17-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
7,411 posts, read 10,386,687 times
Reputation: 1802
Quote:
Originally Posted by agnostic soldier View Post
This whole idea purported by anti gays that homosexuality has killed millions of people is a blatant lie. They're assuming AIDS and homosexuality are the same. Get it right anti gays; AIDS has killed millions of people, not homosexuality. And FYI, using a condom when engaging in anal sex drastically reduces the risk of contracting HIV. Keeping a person celibate is like trying to put spots on a tiger. Instead of working to keep homosexuals or heterosexuals for that matter celibate, work to provide an adequate sex education. Drug users, heterosexuals and prostitutes also contract AIDS. Drug users and prostitutes are two of the groups whom have the highest risk of contracting AIDS. Maybe you should work on teaching drug users to use clean instead of used needles. Why not try and curb promiscuity. This doesn't mean trying to get someone to accept the false belief that anal sex and fornication are wrong. It means teaching people that a promiscuous lifestyle increases the risk of contracting HIV. There are many monogamous homosexuals and many promiscuous heterosexuals. Homosexual/lesbian/heterosexual sexual behavior isn't inherently wrong or lead to AIDS. It's irresponsible sex(not using contraception, promiscuity) and unclean drug needles that leads to(or heightening the risk) of contracting the virus.
You are a smart poster
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-17-2010, 11:12 PM
 
7,628 posts, read 10,969,770 times
Reputation: 498
Quote:
Originally Posted by agnostic soldier View Post
The Uagandan government doesn't down play condom use. In fact, last year it took money from the U.N. fund to buy 100,000 female condoms to distribute to people in Uganda.

Uganda: Battle Over Female Condoms - TIME

If teaching abstinance rather than condom use worked so well then the U.S. should have the lowest number of teen pregnancies. The fact is we have the highest.



Wrong again Campbell, condoms are the main reason for the decline of AIDS in Uganda. Interesting that the number of sexual partners someone had after the ABC method was started grew, meaning the ABC method didn't stop anyone from sleeping around. The use of condoms increased though.

Uganda's Decline in HIV/AIDS Prevalence Attributed to Increased Condom Use, Early Death From AIDS, Study Says - The Body



Condoms are 98% effective.

Condom Use, Statistics, and Effectiveness - Teen Sexuality




Do you ever actually read the links you provide Campbell. You're using a fundamentalist christian website. That means there is no objectivity in their claims and they're completely biased in the matter.









Critics of Ugandas program state that the government is now not only disapproving of condoms, but giving them a bad reputation as well. Billboards can be found everywhere doubting condom reliability. And I'm sorry, this does not come from a Christian fundamentalist website.

The history of AIDS in Uganda

And this comes to us from the NEW YORK TIMES. And if I recall the New York Times is not a Christian publication either.

Now a number of health experts have begun to raise questions about the effectiveness of condoms. They note that there have been virtually no thorough scientific studies of the devices, especially with regards to AIDS transmission.

So where did you get your 98% effective rate? Were you speaking about teen pregnancy? And if you were, that is not even the topic here. And also point out in this link is the fact that condoms have been widely rejected as a method of birth control because they frequently fail. And if they fail for birth control, they also will fail for AIDS pervention. And that is why many health officials have begun to voice concern that the campaign to encourage condom use may be leading many into a false sense of security.

Condoms - Experts Fear False Sense Of Security - NYTimes.com

Last edited by Campbell34; 08-17-2010 at 11:50 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-17-2010, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
4,904 posts, read 6,014,889 times
Reputation: 3533
Quote:
Originally Posted by Campbell34 View Post
Critics of Ugandas program state that the government is now not only disapproving of condoms, but giving them a bad reputation as well. Billboards can be found everywhere doubting condom reliability. And I'm sorry, this does not come from a Christian fundamentalist website.

The history of AIDS in Uganda

And this comes to us from the NEW YOURK TIMES. And if I recall the New York Times is not a Christian publication either.

Now a number of health experts have begun to raise questions about the effectiveness of condoms. They note that there have been virtually no thorough scientific studies of the devices, especially with regards to AIDS transmission.

So where did you get your 98% effective rate? Were you speaking about teen pregnancy? And if you were, that is not even the topic here. And also point out in this link is the fact that condoms have been widely rejected as a method of birth control because they frequently fail. And if they fail for birth control, they also will fail for AIDS pervention. And that is why many health officials have begun to voice concern that the campaign to encourage condom use may be leading many into a false sense of security.

Condoms - Experts Fear False Sense Of Security - NYTimes.com
And who are condoms rejected by. I'm guessing Santa Clause, Elmer Fudd, Jerry Fallwell,Ned Flanders, Pat Robertson, Reverend Lovejoy, Peter Griffin, Pope WannaBucks and Hank the moose.

Campbell, did you even bother to read your links. I think not. Otherwise you would have seen that NY times article also says studies show latex condoms and prophalactics in condoms are extremely effective in protecting against the spread of AIDS. But alas, you ignore that fact in favor of promoting nothing but lies.

Sanspeur also explained the Uganda issue. But, as always you ignore everything that proves you're wrong in every way.

Last edited by agnostic soldier; 08-17-2010 at 11:43 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-17-2010, 11:35 PM
 
7,628 posts, read 10,969,770 times
Reputation: 498
Quote:
Originally Posted by agnostic soldier View Post
This whole idea purported by anti gays that homosexuality has killed millions of people is a blatant lie. They're assuming AIDS and homosexuality are the same. Get it right anti gays; AIDS has killed millions of people, not homosexuality. And FYI, using a condom when engaging in anal sex drastically reduces the risk of contracting HIV. Keeping a person celibate is like trying to put spots on a tiger. Instead of working to keep homosexuals or heterosexuals for that matter celibate, work to provide an adequate sex education. Drug users, heterosexuals and prostitutes also contract AIDS. Drug users and prostitutes are two of the groups whom have the highest risk of contracting AIDS. Maybe you should work on teaching drug users to use clean instead of used needles. Why not try and curb promiscuity. This doesn't mean trying to get someone to accept the false belief that anal sex and fornication are wrong. It means teaching people that a promiscuous lifestyle increases the risk of contracting HIV. There are many monogamous homosexuals and many promiscuous heterosexuals. Homosexual/lesbian/heterosexual sexual behavior isn't inherently wrong or lead to AIDS. It's irresponsible sex(not using contraception, promiscuity) and unclean drug needles that leads to(or heightening the risk) of contracting the virus.





Oh please, what a lame statement. We do not believe that homosexuality and AIDS are the same. We are saying that the homosexual lifestyle is a conduit for the AIDs viruse. Just as drug users can also be a conduit for the AIDs virus. And anyone sleeping around can be a conduit for the virus. It is sex outside of marriage that is wrong. And Scripture states that marriage is between a man and a woman. Not a man with another man. And since the topic is about the new covenant and homosexuality, the belief that the new covenant imbraces the homosexual lifestyle is false.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-17-2010, 11:47 PM
 
7,628 posts, read 10,969,770 times
Reputation: 498
Quote:
Originally Posted by agnostic soldier View Post
And who are condoms rejected by. I'm guessing Santa Clause, Elmer Fudd, Jerry Fallwell,Ned Flanders, Pat Robertson, Reverend Lovejoy, Peter Griffin, Pope WannaBucks and Hank the moose. As always, you show you nothing of AIDS, AIDS prevention or any real solution to the problem.




AIDS pervention cannot be reduced to a plumbing problem. And you have ignored the solution. And that is found in the Bible. And that solution has given Uganda it's 66% success rate. The solution comes from abstinence, and fidelity. People choose to live pure lives before God, rather then behave like animals. People most often choose by their lifestyle, to become AIDS infected. Those who choose to live pure lives usually are free of AIDS. It all comes down to a choice.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:40 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top