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Old 08-07-2010, 04:30 PM
 
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How could he have been. There was no such town/city/village when he was allegedly born.

I repeat. There was no such town/city/village called Nazareth in the 1st century.
Yeah I see that that is what you think. What makes you think that?

I just asked you this on the other thread so you might wanna ignore this one.
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:40 PM
 
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How could he have been. There was no such town/city/village when he was allegedly born.

I repeat. There was no such town/city/village called Nazareth in the 1st century.
Good example of what I just said in the previous post about atheists here not knowing history. Thanks.

Okay it's true Nazareth was not significant enough to be in the major histories of the era, but this does not mean there was no such town. Settlement in the area may date back to the Bronze Age.

House from Jesus' time excavated | briefs

Beyond the basilica: Christians and ... - Google Books

Nazareth

"From the few written sources that there are, we know that in the first century CE Nazareth was a small Jewish village, located inside a valley." news article

"Nazareth's existence before its first mention in written text is verified by excavations in the vicinity of the Latin churches of the Annunciation and St. Joseph. The original village must have been located here because excavations have revealed pottery dating from the Middle Bronze Age..." (Granted the author seems to be Mormon, but it's a research paper at the University of Chicago not a Mormon publication)

"Nazareth was apparently never an important site in Jewish history; it is not mentioned in the Old Testament or rabbinic literature, though Jews certainly lived there in Jesus' time." Jewish Virtual Library
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:46 PM
 
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Good example of what I just said in the previous post about atheists here not knowing history. Thanks.

Okay it's true Nazareth was not significant enough to be in the major histories of the era, but this does not mean there was no such town. Settlement in the area may date back to the Bronze Age.

House from Jesus' time excavated | briefs

Beyond the basilica: Christians and ... - Google Books

Nazareth

"From the few written sources that there are, we know that in the first century CE Nazareth was a small Jewish village, located inside a valley." news article

"Nazareth's existence before its first mention in written text is verified by excavations in the vicinity of the Latin churches of the Annunciation and St. Joseph. The original village must have been located here because excavations have revealed pottery dating from the Middle Bronze Age..." (Granted the author seems to be Mormon, but it's a research paper at the University of Chicago not a Mormon publication)

"Nazareth was apparently never an important site in Jewish history; it is not mentioned in the Old Testament or rabbinic literature, though Jews certainly lived there in Jesus' time." Jewish Virtual Library
LMAO. I do like being a Christian.

It is good.

Praise Jesus Christ!

Oh, and thankyou Thomas. R.
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:47 PM
 
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It can mix.

Even to the extent to say I found, maybe not "religion" per se...but enlightenment and the basis for my belief (ever grateful to Mystic) on this forum.

PLUS the "Flip-Side-of-Religion Crew" here (the Atheists) are an absolute blast! What a lot of characters THEY are...and since I'm a "character" myself...I relate in that way. I hesitate to admit it---but I've found debating (if you can call it that) them to be rather addicting. MOF, I keep telling myself I have to chill out on it a little. Somehow, I don't think they'll miss me! LOL!
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:53 PM
 
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It can mix.

Even to the extent to say I found, maybe not "religion" per se...but enlightenment and the basis for my belief (ever grateful to Mystic) on this forum.

PLUS the "Flip-Side-of-Religion Crew" here (the Atheists) are an absolute blast! What a lot of characters THEY are...and since I'm a "character" myself...I relate in that way. I hesitate to admit it---but I've found debating (if you can call it that) them to be rather addicting. MOF, I keep telling myself I have to chill out on it a little. Somehow, I don't think they'll miss me! LOL!
Well, I'd miss you!!!

I do try to stay out of the full on debates - although I know I don't always succeed. 99% of the time - nothing people say really affects me - in a bad way, I mean. However - that 1% of the time really sucks!!! I have been pleasantly surprised by many people, many times - so that has been nice. Also, to add to what some others have said - this forum hasn't necessarily changed my mind about my own beliefs - but it has made me discover and explore my own beliefs more fully. I've always felt at peace with myself - and the better I understand myself and others -the more peaceful I am!
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Yeah I see that that is what you think. What makes you think that?
Because there is no record of it existing. It's not mentioned in the OT. The Talmud lists 63 towns in the area but there is no Nazareth on the list. It isn't mentioned in any Jewish literature. No ancient historian mentions Nazareth. Franciscan monks have fully excavated the area where Nazareth is supposed to have been and not found it. The The Book of Joshua lists 12 towns and 6 villages in the area but no mention of Nazareth...nor is there any 'Nazareth' among the 45 cities of Galilee that were mentioned by Josephus. The first mention of Nazareth by the Jews was in the 3rd century CE.

Will that do?
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:11 PM
 
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Because there is no record of it existing. It's not mentioned in the OT. The Talmud lists 63 towns in the area but there is no Nazareth on the list. It isn't mentioned in any Jewish literature. No ancient historian mentions Nazareth. Franciscan monks have fully excavated the area where Nazareth is supposed to have been and not found it. The The Book of Joshua lists 12 towns and 6 villages in the area but no mention of Nazareth...nor is there any 'Nazareth' among the 45 cities of Galilee that were mentioned by Josephus. The first mention of Nazareth by the Jews was in the 3rd century CE.

Will that do?
No comment on the links that Thomas provided?
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Good example of what I just said in the previous post about atheists here not knowing history. Thanks.

Okay it's true Nazareth was not significant enough to be in the major histories of the era, but this does not mean there was no such town. Settlement in the area may date back to the Bronze Age.

House from Jesus' time excavated | briefs
Just one tiny dwelling from what the Bible describes as a "city"??

Haven't read the book.

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Nazareth
Looks like a tourism web page to me.
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Good example of what I just said in the previous post about atheists here not knowing history. Thanks.



House from Jesus' time excavated | briefs
By the way old chap. Perhaps you'd be interested in this....

That “Jesus-era” House in Nazareth “Discovery” « Vridar

or this.....

http://www.nazarethmyth.info/
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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By the way old chap. Perhaps you'd be interested in this....

That “Jesus-era” House in Nazareth “Discovery” « Vridar

or this.....

The truth about Nazareth


I kinda wondered about this part...
"and is revered as the original workshop of Joseph and home of the Holy Family."
Makes ya' wonder if there were tool handles marked 'property of Joe" or maybe a family crest on the wall or something
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