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Old 08-29-2010, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I have and yes he was not the messiah, but a teacher who lived in an age of messianic hope.

He was Jew, who lived as a Jew and believed as a Jew and practiced as a Jew.
There's more to the story though. According to Matthew 21 (the parable of the tenants) & Matthew 22 (the parable of the wedding banquet), Jesus said the Jews would reject Him, & He would take His message to the Gentiles. Paul was the chosen messenger.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I thought that everyone knew what was meant when referring to the "heart."
I understood your meaning.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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But learning by experience does not require a god
Learning by experience is development of an inate understanding.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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IA with the bolded. That's been my point all along.
Doesn't equate to there being a god.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:14 PM
 
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and one can have goodness without your version of a creator
True. I know some believe in ID while rejecting the Christian God.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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One can have a creator without knowing it.
We have creators, our parents. Thanks to evolution.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Doesn't equate to there being a god.
Would you agree there has to be a source?
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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We have creators, our parents. Thanks to evolution.
Your parents didn't create you, they begat you.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Learning by experience is development of an inate understanding.
Do you know what the word understanding means? Do you actually think a newborn understands? You dont think that being taught has anything to do with it? Feelings are not understanding. How do you explain all those that do not know the difference in good and bad? How do you explain those that only do bad. We are not born understanding anything, we are taught what those feelings are. If everyone was born understanding, there would not be so much evil in the world. Some people are just messed up, usually through there biology bad wiring or environment.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:20 PM
 
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Your parents didn't create you, they begat you.
No, they had sex and created me. Sperm to egg. Simple biology.
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