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It has been said by many an atheist: You worship a god, but which god is it? Then the atheist goes to make it "clear" that there are hundreds, if not thousands of gods out there. Are you sure you are worshipping the right God you ask?
True to a point, but this ruse really doesn't work for the Christian or other Monotheists.
The point missed is that Christians worship the God who created the Universe. It is that simple. For the monotheist it is a silly question and falls flat as ridicule. So just so you know. Not very effective. We worship the Creator of All (aka God)
Point to consider. God is huge and not fully understandable. Every Christian denomination has the basics down, but the details are too large for any one group to have it all. Thus the variations. I cannot speak for the Jews or other Monotheists. But we have 30,000 denominatons who worship the same God and agree on 95% of the understanding of God
OTOH for the polytheist, you have a valid point and it would not be taken as ridicule but rather as a valid question.
With that said, be advised to not waste your time using the "which God" arguement. It is not effective.
It has been said by many an atheist: You worship a god, but which god is it? Then the atheist goes to make it "clear" that there are hundreds, if not thousands of gods out there. Are you sure you are worshipping the right God you ask?
True to a point, but this ruse really doesn't work for the Christian or other Monotheists.
The point missed is that Christians worship the God who created the Universe. It is that simple. For the monotheist it is a silly question and falls flat as ridicule. So just so you know. Not very effective. We worship the Creator of All (aka God)
Point to consider. God is huge and not fully understandable. Every Christian denomination has the basics down, but the details are too large for any one group to have it all. Thus the variations. I cannot speak for the Jews or other Monotheists. But we have 30,000 denominatons who worship the same God and agree on 95% of the understanding of God
OTOH for the polytheist, you have a valid point and it would not be taken as ridicule but rather as a valid question.
With that said, be advised to not waste your time using the "which God" arguement. It is not effective.
I still don't think you get it. Just saying "we worship the god of the universe" doesn't make it true. Just because it's written in a book doesn't make it true because it can't be verified by anyone. It's really quite simple.
Question...if there are 30,000 different denominations who all worship the same god, and these people all have the same supposed holy spirit, why should there even be a difference?
And it's not like each denomination is just a little bit different than the next. There are drastic variations from one to the next, and by each of their descriptions, you could question whether everyone was worshiping the same god.
I There are drastic variations from one to the next, and by each of their descriptions, you could question whether everyone was worshiping the same god.
I think you need to define "drastic". Care to give some examples? Umm, Let's take three major denominations. OK? Lutheran, Presbyterian and Baptist. OK. Now tell me what they believe about Jesus and God. Tell me how they are "drastically different".
I think you need to define "drastic". Care to give some examples? Umm, Let's take three major denominations. OK? Lutheran, Presbyterian and Baptist. OK. Now tell me what they believe about Jesus and God. Tell me how they are "drastically different".
What type of Lutherans? Catholic, Evangelical, or Synod?
What type of Baptists? Southern, Independent, or the other 300 types?
I think you see where I'm going here.
My point is, if there is no drastic difference, or even slight differences, why have denominations in the first place? Obviously they all disagree to such an extent on what the bible communicates, to form their own denomination.
I will say that probably most DO believe in the basic christian tenants, but again, how does "objective truth" get so distorted to the point where there are 30,000 different ones?
I read about this in a book called "the Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails" where the author talked about a communication problem going on.
Now most christians would say that because we are fallen human beings, we mishear god. But that is ludicrous because it should be nothing for god to CLEARLY communicate what he wants. (as he supposedly did in the bible).
If Catholics are wrong in their doctrine according to most christians I've been around in my life, shouldn't God say something?
You would have to believe that he either purposely wants confusion, or he simply isn't there.
What type of Lutherans? Catholic, Evangelical, or Synod?
What type of Baptists? Southern, Independent, or the other 300 types?
I think you see where I'm going here.
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I think people need to state the perceived differences. Then we can discuss. To say there are differences means nothng without defining those differences.
OK how is this. How do Baptists (of any flavor) and Lutherans (of any flavor) see God differently? Or Jesus? The ball is in your court.
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