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Old 06-29-2009, 04:27 AM
 
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The Old Testament and the new Testament is seperated by 400 years. Thus the Old Testament came in the past, and the New Testament came 400 years later. Both Testaments come from God.
That still doesn't answer the question.Where in the Bible does it say call this old and the other new?

Now Moses wrote the first 5 books and the book of Job.John wrote the book of Revelation-These Bible writers didn't know each other.Yet if you are one who understands the Bible,you know that it has a theme.It all comes to together in unity.There were 40 Bible writers in all.Why not separate the Bible in 40 different Testaments then?

You are selling yourself short to pluck out parts of God's word.Even the last word penned is very old.The whole book is practical and update to preach and teach with.
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Old 06-29-2009, 04:53 AM
 
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The term "New Testament" seems to date to Tertullian in the second century or Lactantius in the third.

"But all Scripture is divided into two Testaments. That which preceded the advent and passion of Christ—that is, the law and the prophets—is called the Old; but those things which were written after His resurrection are named the New Testament." Lactantius

ANF07. Fathers of the Third and Fourth Centuries: Lactantius, Venantius, Asterius, Victorinus, Dionysius, Apostolic Teaching and Constitutions, Homily | Christian Classics Ethereal Library

The term "new covenant" is in the Bible. Among other places it can be found in Luke 22:20 "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you"; and Hebrews 9:15 "For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant." The origin of "New Testament" comes from that.
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:03 AM
 
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When you preach and teach the Bible-you must be thorough.

People wouldn't understand why there is a need for a Christ without teaching them Genesis thru Malachi.

True religion does not refer to any of the Bible as old as to say it is irrelevant to learn from.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:22 PM
 
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What rules?
Kosher law would be a good place to start....
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:40 AM
 
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That still doesn't answer the question.Where in the Bible does it say call this old and the other new?

Now Moses wrote the first 5 books and the book of Job.John wrote the book of Revelation-These Bible writers didn't know each other.Yet if you are one who understands the Bible,you know that it has a theme.It all comes to together in unity.There were 40 Bible writers in all.Why not separate the Bible in 40 different Testaments then?

You are selling yourself short to pluck out parts of God's word.Even the last word penned is very old.The whole book is practical and update to preach and teach with.
Well, where in the Scriptures do we find the word Bible? Are you guility of adding to Gods Word? Especially if the Word Bible is not found in the Scriptures. There is a time, when common sense has to come into play.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:36 AM
 
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Well, where in the Scriptures do we find the word Bible? Are you guility of adding to Gods Word? Especially if the Word Bible is not found in the Scriptures. There is a time, when common sense has to come into play.
God's word is the Bible-period.There is no old or new to it.
It all comes together in one harmony.The thread starts at Genesis and ends in Revelation.

So are you saying that the book is not called the Bible?

Bible means one big book,in which it consists of 66 little books or biblia(latin translation).
The word Bible doesn't mean two books.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:30 AM
 
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God's word is the Bible-period.There is no old or new to it.
It all comes together in one harmony.The thread starts at Genesis and ends in Revelation.

So are you saying that the book is not called the Bible?

Bible means one big book,in which it consists of 66 little books or biblia(latin translation).
The word Bible doesn't mean two books.
So, could you direct me to the chapter and verse that states God's Word would be called the Bible? Where in the Scriptures do we find the Word Bible?
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Old 06-30-2009, 04:16 AM
 
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So, could you direct me to the chapter and verse that states God's Word would be called the Bible? Where in the Scriptures do we find the Word Bible?
There is none.However,Jesus and writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures referred to the collection of sacred writings as "the Scriptures",or "the holy Scriptures","the holy writings"
The word biblia came to describe various writings,scrolls,books,and eventually the collection of little books that make up the Bible.

There is no valid basis for the Hebrew and Aramaic Scriptures to be called the "Old Testament" and for the Christian Greek Scriptures to be called the "New Testament".
As stated before,Jesus referred to the COLLECTION of sacred writings as "the Scriptures"(Mt 21:42;Mr 14:49;Joh 5:39)

"All Scripture is inspired of God",and this includes the writings of in the Christian Greek Scriptures along with the "rest of the Scriptures". (2Ti 3:16;2Pe 3:15,16)

Many modern translations correctly read "old covenant".Not "old testament". The apostle Paul is not referring to the Hebrew and Aramaic Scriptures in their entirety.
Neither does he mean that the inspired Christians writings constitute a "new testament(or,covenant)."
The apostle is speaking of the old Law covenant,which was recorded by Moses in the Pentateuch and which makes up only part of the pre-Christian Scriptures. 2 Corithians 3:14

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Old 06-30-2009, 06:25 AM
 
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The OT is fine example of WHAT NOT TO DO. I find it repulsive that "a loving god" inspired all of the happenings in it. Ridiculous.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:42 AM
 
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The OT is fine example of WHAT NOT TO DO. I find it repulsive that "a loving god" inspired all of the happenings in it. Ridiculous.
The fact that you even exist,indicates God's love.It's called undeserved kindness.
Blaspheming God isn't going to get you anywhere.
If you really knew what was in the Bible,you'd know that He doesn't cause wickedness.His archenemy does-satan.
The way you feel is exactly how satan wants you to feel.His tricks have not changed since in the garden of Eden,when they began.He is now somewhere saying GOTCHA(meaning you).
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