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Old 07-10-2007, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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The Blessing is Christ here and the answer is yes if they accept Him. And yes I still believe in hell.
But yet again ILNC, you are adding to the word of God! The Bible does not say IF they accept Him, but ALL WILL BE.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:25 PM
 
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Not at all. I don't see how a nation of over 300 million people would agree, as a whole, on what precepts to follow.
It's called their laws and the morals that the country functions under.

Like when we send aid to Tsunami victims, etc, that would be following one of God's precepts to take care of others.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:26 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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What are we gonna do with this guy, ILNC?
Maybe we could add the phrase after every post no matter what the subject, "and yes, Jeff, I still believe in hell!"
Good idea kay
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Austin Texas
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The only reason America is so blessed if because we support Israel. Anyone who goes against them will fail. Look at what a tiny country they are and how they are still going even after all the attacks on them. Genesis 12:3 "I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. All the families of the earth will be blessed through you".

Hate to bring this up, but most of the Israelies don't believe in Christ as their saviours (not that it matters to me).

Also: Our country would not be the object of such Arab resentment if it wasn't for our support of Israel. The Arab world is large and vast, too bad we alienate all those countries to support one that was illegally taken from the Palastinians.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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What are we gonna do with this guy, ILNC?
Maybe we could add the phrase after every post no matter what the subject, "and yes, Jeff, I still believe in hell!"
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Good idea kay
Oh come on you guys, answer my last posts to you. Who knows? You might convince me to come back "to the roots of my faith", as my mother says.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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Hate to bring this up, but most of the Israelies don't believe in Christ as their saviours (not that it matters to me).

Also: Our country would not be the object of such Arab resentment if it wasn't for our support of Israel. The Arab world is large and vast, too bad we alienate all those countries to support one that was illegally taken from the Palastinians.
So who founded Jerusalem? Who lived there before the Palastinians? Who really stole from who?

The Middle East is huge, and all the Jews are asking for is one very little sliver of land, and it's especially small when compared with the rest of the area. They can't even get THAT without a fight.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:33 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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But yet again ILNC, you are adding to the word of God! The Bible does not say IF they accept Him, but ALL WILL BE.
Blessings for those people and nations which bless Abraham and the nation which comes from him, cursings upon those people land nations which curse Abraham and Israel, blessings upon all the families of the earth through Jesus who according to the flesh is Abraham's son and provides salvation from the entire world.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:35 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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Hate to bring this up, but most of the Israelies don't believe in Christ as their saviours (not that it matters to me).

Also: Our country would not be the object of such Arab resentment if it wasn't for our support of Israel. The Arab world is large and vast, too bad we alienate all those countries to support one that was illegally taken from the Palastinians.
Yes I know, I think on 2% are Christians, but still doesn't change what the Bible says.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That would be all well and good, except that this scripture is obviously referring to Jesus...or no??? If it is, then how is Jesus blessing all the families of the earth if He is not saving them? Did he bless their food, or their finances...and if THAT is the case, how is He blessing those who have not entered into a "covenant" with Him by getting saved?
I think they are blessed by having the opportunity to accept Jesus. To the jew and then the gentile so to speak.

That's what I think that verse means. A nation being blessed, however, can certainly mean materially, financially, with good health, peace, favor with other countries, favor in war etc. I do think the United States has been blessed by God. Does that mean every person in the US has received Christ, obviously no. Would that it were so, but it's not.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Austin Texas
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So who founded Jerusalem? Who lived there before the Palastinians? Who really stole from who?

The Middle East is huge, and all the Jews are asking for is one very little sliver of land, and it's especially small when compared with the rest of the area. They can't even get THAT without a fight.
Are you saying that the Palistinians stole Israel?


They've been there for a thousand years, and traditionally had a lot of toleration for Jews and Christians.
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