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If he's an Evil Spirit, what's he doing in Heaven?
He gets to do what he was created to do, so as to sift holy angels and the seed born in the Adam race. He does his job with will, because the spoils become his food, forever, when it is all over and he is bound in his dark dominion, which dominion is the Lake of Fire.
Read the posts, so that you don't ask questions that are answered.
When Satan is cast out of heaven, then he gets to gather up as many as he can from the Adam seed on earth, for the last short years before Jesus comes to set up His millennial kingdom.
At the end of the millennial kingdom, the satans get released from the pit to sift out the seed born in Adam who were never tested for the entire thousand year reign. He gets more spoils of war added to his kingdom of darkness by getting those who believe his lies and rebel against the LORD. -Then its all over and his dominion is sealed and no one goes in and no one comes out, forever.
In ignorance, you speak. May God have mercy on your soul.
Satan is the father of lies and liars, and the father of murder and murderers. Satan binds up his victims, and feeds on their flesh/dust with numerous torments and afflictions.
Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Luk 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
-And you'll never be a friend of any satan. They know no friends, only treachery, mocking, and scorn. They despise the weakness of the race of Adam and will eternally mock those who have been deceived by them, who did not repent and be saved out of the grasp of the evil spirits.
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he is bound in his dark dominion, which dominion is the Lake of Fire.
If the lake is on fire, it won't be dark there.
Seriously, why should we give one iota of credibility to a YEC'er that believes the sun orbits the earth, and is made of a giant crystal with castles inside of it, and that gravity doesn't exist? (Among all the other bizarre beliefs you espouse)
hi YSM.
do you believe the seed/genes of the nephilim resides in some of mankind today?
Yes, but they are not "mankind", not being of Adam.
David only got them all out of Canaan, but they were scattered over the globe from there, after that.
The remnants of the giants after that, included Maximinus- Giants in Western Europe (http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/W.Europe/W.Europe7.html - broken link)
Ten generations of backbreeding in the Adam line from a giant remnant line makes a pure Adam spirit again. I believe that, based on a passage in Scripture: Deu 23:2A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.-the giants were called "bastards" in Enoch.
so an Adam soul may have genetic mutations from the ancestry of the giant remnants flesh, but be pure in Adam spirit because he is ten generations removed from the blood line of the giant spirit remnant.
The link I gave above has historical facts and you can check them out, but the opinions of the man who writes the history of them is that some giants escaped the flood, but that is not true. The Word is clear -from Enoch to Genesis- that every living soul on earth perished from off the earth in the flood, but those on the Ark, and that after the flood, more Watchers [archangels are Watchers], fell into the same temptation by the satans tempting them, as before the flood, and took daughters of Adam and got offspring. Jude tells us that the angels who did that fornication before the flood were chained as a warning to other [angels] who would be tempted to do the same fornicating with the Adam race females.
That others did do that same sin after the flood is in the Word, and in history. Think it not strange that more did do it after the flood even with the severe warning of the chaining of the 200 who fell before the flood, because Jude also says that the nuking, from heaven, without warning and no call to repent [as Ninevah got, through Jonah], of Sodom and the cities of the plain, was also done as a warning to other men who would fall into the same sins of fornication as Sodom and Gommorah and the cities of the plain did. We know that other Watchers/sons of God/Judges set over earth did fall after that flood, and we know that other men/Adam souls on earth also fell -and continue to fall- after Sodom's nuking, for that same fornication.
So yes. There are remnants of the giants among us. They will only be removed at the end of the tribulation.
Also: every seed born in Adam was already written in the Book of Life before the foundation of the world, and is called to salvation through the Atonement offered once, fulfilled in its pre-ordained season, for all Adam souls, by the Kinsman/Redeemer of all Adam. Christ come in flesh is that Kinsman/Redeemer to all Adam. An Adam soul can only get their name blotted out of the Book of Life, but never added, according to Scripture; beginning in Enoch and ending in Revelation, this doctrine is taught.
In Revelation we see that all those whose names were never written in the Book of Life worship the man of sin, and those of Adam who were written in the Book of Life who worship that man of sin get their names blotted out of the Book of Life.
Also, in Isaiah, we have the promise of the complete removal of those "tyrants" -branches of the fallen Watchers- who are not named in Adam, nor can be named in the New Man name by adoption [that new name is Israel, and speaks of the adoption into the Living Spirit and regeneration into the immortal flesh nature of that One New Man]. Those tyrants will never be "named" in earth, with the name they hoped to take earth over with.
Isa 25:5 Thou shalt bring down the noise of strangers, as the heat in a dry place; [even] the heat with the shadow of a cloud: the branch/cuttings of the fallen Watchers/sons of God] of the terrible [tyrants] ones shall be brought low.
Mal 4:1
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. Isa 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
Earth was given to "ben Adam", says the Hebrew, in Psalm 115:16, and these fallen Watchers try to take over earth by filling it with their own "roots and branches" -nephillim. They are inspired by the Satans to do so, not because the Satans think they can take over earth, but because those who fall, and the demon spirits/evil spirits/nephillim born of them, will be the food for the Satans to feast on forever, and torment forever [which is their food], in the Lake of Fire -after the final judgment.
There is much more to study on this subject from Enoch and the OT and NT.
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Enoch 10:9And to Gabriel said the Lord: "Proceed against the bastards and the reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy the children of fornication and the children of the Watchers from amongst men: and cause them to go forth: send them one against the other that they may destroy each other in battle: for length of days shall they not have. 10And no request that they i.e. their fathers make of thee shall be granted unto their fathers on their behalf; for they hope to live an eternal life, and that each one of them will live five hundred years."
The above, from Enoch 10, is about the "bastards" born of the fallen Watchers and daughters of Adam [called fornication in Jude, also], and they were got as offspring/remnants of the fallen ones spirits, by the teaching about gene splicing brought to the daughters of Adam, whom they took for wives.
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Enoch 7And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants
This is to be done again, in the last days, and more evil spirits will get Adam flesh, manipulated genetically. The sirens [female nephillim disembodied spirits] in Zechariah 5:14, are taking the woman which is "wickedness" to set her basket on its base in Shinar -where Babylon will rise again. That speaks of the genetic manipulation once again being done to get offspring by fallen angels.
Angels still fall, as those born in Adam also fall, and each one is tested by temptations of the satans, to see who will be fit for the eternal Life in the regenerated heavens and earth. Those who fall are cast aways forever, and tormented in the Lake of Fire. So we see a future temptation coming to the world, inspired by the sirens who are seen by Zechariah.
Daniel also mentions the mixing of [fallen] angels with daughters born in Adam, in the last days.
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Enoch 19 And Uriel said to me: "Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women, and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods, here shall they stand, till the day of the great judgement in which they shall be judged till they are made an end of. 2And the women also of the angels who went astray shall become sirens." 3And I, Enoch, alone saw the vision, the ends of all things: and no man shall see as I have seen.
Sirens =demon spirits, in Zech 5:
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Zec 5:9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind [was] in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
The ancient stories of the sirens -like Pisinoe, Aglaope and Thelxiepi- are based on the facts of Scriptures.
Now sirens are purely sexual creatures, fornication is their game, and we see two siren demons in Zechariah taking the wickedness to set on its base in Shinar/Iraq, where Babylon is. So we can expect more nephillim spirits born from daughters of Adam and fallen Watchers, from that part of the world, in the last days.
Seriously, why should we give one iota of credibility to a YEC'er that believes the sun orbits the earth, and is made of a giant crystal with castles inside of it, and that gravity doesn't exist? (Among all the other bizarre beliefs you espouse)
The force called gravity cannot be explained or discovered, and a simple child's magnet overcomes "gravity".
Electric forces -currents, charged "winds/currents" are those forces which hold the universe together and earth in its fixed place, and drive the sun, moon, and stars on their courses in the heavens around the globe of the world.
BTW: C.S. Lewis was a reader of the Hebrew OT, Greek NT, and Enoch, and Jasher, and of all other ancient writings accessible to him, and he wrote great stories utilizing what he read in Enoch and others. Lucy's healing potion in a crystal bottle was got from "the mountain of the sun".
But I read the Word, and ancient writings, and I believe what the holy Scriptures say: that the Holy of Holies which Moses copied and the Temple Moses copied is "set in the sun", as the Psalmist writes, in the Hebrew, and which the Greek translators of the Septuagint also translated correctly: "in the sun hath He set His tabernacle/dwelling place", and which the English translators of the Douay-Rheims also translated correctly.
I make no apologies for believing God's Word over the word of fallible, unbelieving, sinful, ignorant, rebellious, fallen men..
Moses wrote that the sun and moon, made and set in the stretched out heavens on day 4 of creation week, are "chandeliers", which
rule/govern, the light created on day 1, but are not that light, and are not where that light dwells.
The Lake of Fire is called the second death, and outer darkness, because those condemned to there suffer the blackness of darkness forever, without seeing the Light that lights every man that comes into the world in this present creation. It is the complete separation forever from the Light, that is Christ, and who is the Glory of God, come in flesh.
The Lake of Fire is Satan's dark dominion, where the Prince of Darkness and his angels of darkness reign over the victims who are their slaves forever, who are doomed to be his food, to torment forever. That is the delight of the darkness, to feast on tormenting the victims.
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