Science has much better answers than "God did it" (scripture, evidence)
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I'm not sure we always knew of them. And those are just of Earth animals, who knows what things might exist elsewhere.
Although I admit I don't think we'll discover "spirituality" as some kind of sixth-sense, but the idea human senses can give a complete or accurate accounting of reality is something I feel is possibly overly optimistic.
As I keep saying there is a lot we don't know and there are perceptions other animals have that we don't. However, that is no reason to either accept all kinds of postulated faculties or entities without evidence OR feelings, emotions or ideas interpreted in just one way (coinciding - and not too much of a coincidence - with a tribal mythology - system) to the exclusion of all other explanations.
Or of course, quoting the migration facility or the Bee's direction dance and, for want of a better explanation, saying "It's done by God".
Explains everything and explains nothing and, worse, can get in the way of discovering the real reasons for migration, Bee dance or for the Mystical experience, especially if it turns out to be evolutionary reasons.
Yet again I'm hearing 'science doesn't know everything' (which is true enough) being transliterated into 'science shouldn't look at these things. They are the preserve of religion'.
We may not find a complete or accurate accounting of reality, but already we have found the DNA explanation of that puzzling question: 'how do babies know?' We are getting inklings of the reasons why we have morality or compassion or tribalism or the divine instinct.
It probably does not matter that theists are getting the collywobbles under their body belt which comes out as the rather lame 'science will never find out everything'.
Maybe not, but the gaps for God are closing.
Last edited by TRANSPONDER; 12-21-2010 at 07:16 AM..
Bumblebees should not be able to fly...but they do.
Then like all the funny 'god feelings' which we can't yet explain, we should put aside the facile 'Goddunnit' explanations and let science find out what, how and why....
Ah! I knew there was an explanation for your conundrum. Mere ignorance.
"The basic principles of bumblebee flight, and insect flight generally, have been pretty well understood for many years. Somehow, though, the idea that bees "violate aerodynamic theory" got embedded in folklore."
I'm not, it's a fact that bumblebees should not be able to fly, considering their mass and aerodynamics, but they still do.
Wow...dude...move into the 20th century, because that's a myth from as early as the 19th century. The rest of us are already in the 21st century, so you're severely lagging behind. Read the following article. It's presented in simple enough language that perhaps you can follow it and learn something, instead of insisting on believing old urban myths. Hint: some of the "calculations" that are originally attributed to the "bumblebees shouldn't fly" baloney were calculated as if the bees were a fixed-wing aircraft. *eyeroll*
If a man built a plane with the same wing profile, and the same mass (only built to a larger scale), it wouldn't fly.
How dense are you? Bees are not fixed-wing aircraft! You CANNOT use the same mathematical calculations on bees as you do on airplanes! Their wings beat. Their wings move independently of each other. How hard is this to understand? Read the freakin' articles that have been posted. Please learn something and stop being deliberately uneducated.
What I have found and what I have showed you is that time and again your arguments are based on poor science, misrepresentation, lack of research, special pleading, quotemining and, in the end appeal to God told you it was true.
When have you ever, EVER, looked at it from the 'other side'? When have you even once looked up any of the counters to your claims pasted from Creationist sites? Why on earth should we have to check all the strings of Young Earth claims you toss at us?
The evidence is all there. You can check each one of those 'Young Earth evidences' for yourself. I have already done the rock dome and the sunken aircraft and you should have got the idea by now. Check your claims before you bring them to us.
A. C Clarke made the point (though he was a bit dissmissive) that UFO enthusiasts operated by showing one photo of a blur or dot after another with some anecdotal story after another. "Explain that". If you did, they'd just go onto the next.
This is as pointless as posting lists of prophecies of Jesus. The Jesus story is not true and based more on the prophecies than the prophecies based on Jesus. That is the case and so posting prophcies is moribund.
Similarly, the evidence for an old earth and evolution is massive. Overwhelming and the objections are no more than unanswered questions at best and downright non-science at worst.
Of course there are repeated surprises such as the T Rex soft tissue, but it turned out that was very badly overdrawn and misrepresented by over - eager Y E enthusiasts. However, like the legged snake, the mountaintop fossils and the vertical whale, they turned out to be no problem at all. Only for the Y E enthusiasts.
When you have encounters with God, end of story. Most here will argue on the merits of science. I on the other hand will float some beliefs out there in support of my side. Yet none of it, is really that important to my faith. I have walked the halls of heaven, I have heard the voice of God. I know most people don't have experiences like this. Yet I believe my experiences have only occured because of my strong belief in God from the beginning. I have been attacked by demons, and have experienced the supernatural. So many here will argue if God exist or not. Yet my personal experiences has fully removed that as a valid question for me. Jesus is the real God, and I know this because he has been with me for so long. Science has answers. Some right, and some not so right. You can debate these scientific questions until the cows come home. And you will be convinced of your position. Yet there will be ten other scientist who will question that. And every new generation often discovers the scientific facts of yesterday, are todays obvious errors. Science is a wonderful tool. And science has done much to help the human race. Yet the science of speculation can be misleading. And one should never place their eternal soul, on speculations.
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