People who commit suicide do NOT go to hell (priests, brainwashing, confess)

[lhpartridge]

Originally Posted by SoCalAngel2009

Well, ya know, this has to do with receiving Divine Love and is a part of my soul perceptions about God. Plus, I have posted this before about Jesus' true teachings, of which I am a 40 year follower. Jesus' messages are quite profound and phenomenal. I've never read anything other than these teachings that make so much common sense. I have also posted that the "proof is in the prayer."

As Jesus wrote:

"My truths are plain and my teachings can be understood by the simple." Humbled to be one of the simple.

The Truths may be understood by the simple.

Prayer for the Divine Love

I'm not clear here. Did you attempt suicide? Or are you speaking from what you've heard from others?

[SoCalAngel2009]

Originally Posted by lhpartridge

I'm not clear here. Did you attempt suicide? Or are you speaking from what you've heard from others?

What I've posted are from spirit communications. One man was a friend of the medium who received his message through automatic writing.

[SoCalAngel2009]

The post I referred to above is on page 9.

Here's part of what he wrote:

"I want to tell you that I am in a condition of great darkness and suffering, and I am not able to find a way out of the darkness or to relieve myself from my tortures."

This is the link to the message dated October 1, 1915:

Ross Perry explains why he committed suicide.

[lhpartridge]

Originally Posted by SoCalAngel2009

What I've posted are from spirit communications. One man was a friend of the medium who received his message through automatic writing.

So you're not speaking from direct experience. You're getting your information from a spirit whose word you have to take on faith. Now I'm clear.

[lhpartridge]

Originally Posted by SoCalAngel2009

The post I referred to above is on page 9.

Here's part of what he wrote:

"I want to tell you that I am in a condition of great darkness and suffering, and I am not able to find a way out of the darkness or to relieve myself from my tortures."

This is the link to the message dated October 1, 1915:

Ross Perry explains why he committed suicide.

The link doesn't work. I hope I didn't get a virus by visiting that page.

Does this quotation refer to before or after his suicide?

[SoCalAngel2009]

Originally Posted by lhpartridge

The link doesn't work. I hope I didn't get a virus by visiting that page.

Does this quotation refer to before or after his suicide?

Oops. This was after his suicide. He shot himself and explains why he did it.

Try this one:

https://divinelovewritings.blogspot....te-friend.html

[303Guy]

Originally Posted by lhpartridge

So you're not speaking from direct experience. You're getting your information from a spirit whose word you have to take on faith. Now I'm clear.

Not quite. He's getting his information from a man who says he was getting it from the spirit of the dead man.

[Rafius]

Originally Posted by 303Guy

That flies in the face of the notion that God is all knowing and all powerful don't you think? It also contradicts the "we cannot know the mind of God" claim when awkward questions are asked.

Originally Posted by phetaroi

It's just amazing how much you KNOW about how God thinks and works.

I suppose you guys, like me, can remember the days when 'God' was an enigma that no human could unravel; a mystery that could never be understood or explained; no man can understand God. Now, just a few years on, all it's followers are having a bloody 'personal relationship' with it and know, to the minutest detail, all about what it thinks, wants, doesn't want and is and isn't going to do in the future.

Originally Posted by DutchessCottonPuff

Hate does not mean love . Never has, never will. Your rationalization skills are out of this world though .

It's a Christian thing. When they see 'Jesus tells us we must love ...', the word love means exactly that, we have to love. No need to read it any way other than how it is written but, when they see the 'Jesus tell us to hate', it's then a case of 'Wait! In this case, the word hate doesn't actually mean hate. It means love less. Words meant different things back then.'

[Tantalust]

Originally Posted by Matthew 4:4

The word ' hate ' in Scripture can simply mean to love to a lesser degree.
In other words, we are to first love God, then others.

So if we insert more convenient synonyms for hate, such as:

“If anyone comes to me and does not abstain from thy father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

“If anyone comes to me and does not lose interest in thy father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

“If anyone comes to me and does not duck thy father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

“If anyone comes to me and does not shirk thy father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

“If anyone comes to me and does not devalue thy father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

“If anyone comes to me and does not cheapen they father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

“If anyone comes to me and does not resent thy father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."

“If anyone comes to me and does not abnegate [gotta love thesaurus.com. ] thy father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."


Wouldn't any such passage in ANY bible sound really stupid and evil, especially nowadays!

Even though there are about 40-150 different versions of the bible with that "H" word in there, someone fool may have just made an innocent typo with his quivering quill, chisel or whatever he were using.

[SoCalAngel2009]

Originally Posted by Rafius

I suppose you guys, like me, can remember the days when 'God' was an enigma that no human could unravel; a mystery that could never be understood or explained; no man can understand God. Now, just a few years on, all it's followers are having a bloody 'personal relationship' with it and know, to the minutest detail, all about what it thinks, wants, doesn't want and is and isn't going to do in the future.

I remember the days when there was no internet, no wifi, no cell phones. But we know times they have changed and with the advent of all the cool things we may now avail ourselves of in this information age, then it makes sense to me that if we can become "cyber friends" with people across this planet earth just by merely logging into a computer, then we can look up to the Heavens and become aware of and personally get to know our Creator.

Originally Posted by Rafius

It's a Christian thing. When they see 'Jesus tells us we must love ...', the word love means exactly that, we have to love. No need to read it any way other than how it is written but, when they see the 'Jesus tell us to hate', it's then a case of 'Wait! In this case, the word hate doesn't actually mean hate. It means love less. Words meant different things back then.'

Is it a Christian thing, or a cultural thing? It appears that words are being twisted every which way to accommodate a certain ideology. The real question is this. Did Jesus really say that? He was a man of the highest Love and imho, he didn't.