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Old 06-10-2011, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Yes. I do.

I want to have "prayers" and to sit down and say them and KNOW they're the right thing to say and that somebody is hearing them.

I want to feel important. I do want to feel like somebody "made" me purposefully, simply because humans are so uber-cool and I'm one of them.

I want to believe that when they die, truly awful people, albeit in my definition (even if that definition matches that of many other people), get punished somehow and that people who are good get some sort of reward for their day-to-day earthly sufferings.

I want to believe that there's something bigger than myself. One thing. One big thing. (I guess I already said "big.")

I want to feel...not alone. Like there's a reason. A purpose.

But...

I can not seem to get a grip on "believing in God" and "choosing" a religion. Period. I can't do it. I have tried for so, so, so many years. From the time I was very little, I told myself (and everyone else) that I believed in God. For a while that was the Christian God or at least my interpretation of Him. For a while it was the Goddess. It's been Hindu god names...Celtic god names...etc.

But I never TRULY felt I was telling the truth to whomever God was, nor was I telling the truth to myself.

I don't know if I believe in God. At all.

This puts me in a horribly, horribly, horribly lonely place. I can't describe it. And I don't know what to believe anymore. This is all quite serious, folks. I'm not being facetious or trying to make a point.

I am lonely. Because I don't have a God. No matter how I try...I don't have one. Not for real. I just can't seem to outright "believe"...except when I'm VERY scared of bad things that could happen after death. And WTH is that? Not love, that's for sure!

I'm certain a few people will say, "Why do you feel the need to believe in some skygod in order to feel like you're not alone?" and the answer to that is: I don't know why. I really don't know. I don't consider myself a stupid person. I think constantly. It's frightening how much of my day I spend thinking, pondering, wondering...about everything. I DO know how to think; I'm not a puppet and never have been, particularly to a religion. So: I don't know why I feel this way.

I shouldn't be lonely, God or no God. I have a family. But I am. I am so, so, so indescribably sad. Somebody help me through this. I just don't know how to feel. I just feel all alone...the person who doesn't have a God.

Thanks for reading.
Logic and Reason would be sufficient if we were machines instead of people, huh? All joking aside, it sounds like you're in a very excruciating place.

"I'm certain a few people will say, Why do you feel the need to believe in some skygod in order to feel like you're not alone?"

The religious impulse is universal. It's a human thing. What you're feeling is the presence of that God-Shaped Hole we all instinctively fill with something or other.
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:24 AM
 
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I want to have "prayers" and to sit down and say them and KNOW they're the right thing to say and that somebody is hearing them.
You're only talking to yourself, so what ever want to hear, go for it.

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I want to feel important. I do want to feel like somebody "made" me purposefully, simply because humans are so uber-cool and I'm one of them.
The reality is, you, I, and everyone else are just another animal existing for how ever long we have, with no purpose except contuiance of the species.
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I want to believe that when they die, truly awful people, albeit in my definition (even if that definition matches that of many other people), get punished somehow and that people who are good get some sort of reward for their day-to-day earthly sufferings.
Nope, everyone is just dead, end of the line, end of story.

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I want to believe that there's something bigger than myself. One thing. One big thing. (I guess I already said "big.")
Nope, and you will be happier if you stop trying to delude yourself into something that isn't.

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I want to feel...not alone. Like there's a reason. A purpose.
Get a dog
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Old 06-11-2011, 02:36 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Just to clarify something so nobody has to worry! -- I should have stated that this is how I feel *when I think about there being no God*.
I know that feeling. It comes when I experience doubt.

Some people are comforted by the thought of there being no God, which is incomprehensible to me.
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Old 06-11-2011, 02:37 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You're only talking to yourself, so what ever want to hear, go for it.


The reality is, you, I, and everyone else are just another animal existing for how ever long we have, with no purpose except contuiance of the species.

Nope, everyone is just dead, end of the line, end of story.

Nope, and you will be happier if you stop trying to delude yourself into something that isn't.

Get a dog

You should write for Hallmark.
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:07 AM
 
Location: Y-Town Area
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Yes. I do.

I want to have "prayers" and to sit down and say them and KNOW they're the right thing to say and that somebody is hearing them.

I want to feel important. I do want to feel like somebody "made" me purposefully, simply because humans are so uber-cool and I'm one of them.

I want to believe that when they die, truly awful people, albeit in my definition (even if that definition matches that of many other people), get punished somehow and that people who are good get some sort of reward for their day-to-day earthly sufferings.

I want to believe that there's something bigger than myself. One thing. One big thing. (I guess I already said "big.")

I want to feel...not alone. Like there's a reason. A purpose.

But...

I can not seem to get a grip on "believing in God" and "choosing" a religion. Period. I can't do it. I have tried for so, so, so many years. From the time I was very little, I told myself (and everyone else) that I believed in God. For a while that was the Christian God or at least my interpretation of Him. For a while it was the Goddess. It's been Hindu god names...Celtic god names...etc.

But I never TRULY felt I was telling the truth to whomever God was, nor was I telling the truth to myself.

I don't know if I believe in God. At all.

This puts me in a horribly, horribly, horribly lonely place. I can't describe it. And I don't know what to believe anymore. This is all quite serious, folks. I'm not being facetious or trying to make a point.

I am lonely. Because I don't have a God. No matter how I try...I don't have one. Not for real. I just can't seem to outright "believe"...except when I'm VERY scared of bad things that could happen after death. And WTH is that? Not love, that's for sure!

I'm certain a few people will say, "Why do you feel the need to believe in some skygod in order to feel like you're not alone?" and the answer to that is: I don't know why. I really don't know. I don't consider myself a stupid person. I think constantly. It's frightening how much of my day I spend thinking, pondering, wondering...about everything. I DO know how to think; I'm not a puppet and never have been, particularly to a religion. So: I don't know why I feel this way.

I shouldn't be lonely, God or no God. I have a family. But I am. I am so, so, so indescribably sad. Somebody help me through this. I just don't know how to feel. I just feel all alone...the person who doesn't have a God.

Thanks for reading.
Have you ever considered Buddhism. There are many varieties and you can find which one is the best fit for you. It is said that Buddha gave 80,000 teachings and none of them are wrong. Here are the centers located in L.A. alone. There are many more listed at this same site.
http://www.buddhanet.info/wbd/search...province_id=26
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Old 06-11-2011, 06:56 AM
 
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Don't worship. Worship is a sign of weakness, of lack of lordship over yourself.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Don't worship. Worship is a sign of weakness, of lack of lordship over yourself.
You do Satan proud.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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You do Satan proud.
and you believe in the fictional characters of fairy tales
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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You do Satan proud.
Good; the satan-character in the bible is symbol for thinking for oneself rather than blindly following.
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Good; the satan-character in the bible is symbol for thinking for oneself rather than blindly following.
According to Luciferians.
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