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Old 12-15-2010, 02:18 PM
 
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God spared me more than once in Vietnam. You will know it when it happens to you.
There are many atheists in foxholes.
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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God spared me more than once in Vietnam. You will know it when it happens to you.
Yep...sure ain't no atheists in foxholes.

Sorry Cougar...didn't see your post before. As you might imagine my remark was tongue in cheek.
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Looks like round #2 went into the floor I figure that was the first time that guy had fired a gun.

I really wonder if the gunman didn't want to kill anybody in the first place. He misses at point blank range - OK, maybe a bad shot - but a really bad shot.
Then he shoots into the floor - now, how bad a shot does someone have to be to do that.
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Well, I guess it makes sense that God blocked the bullet. Two weeks ago, it appears He was to blame for a football player dropping what would have been a certain touchdown pass. Had to make up for that one!
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:20 PM
 
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Because god cares about some fat old white Floridian more than he cares about millions of starving children.
Bumper sticker time!
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:20 PM
 
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If the guy is thankful to be allive and is a believer, what harm is he doing to anyone by saying God blocked the bullet? It was simply a statement based on his beliefs..that's all-----he didn't ask anyone to believe him.
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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It's insulting to anyone who's ever lost a loved to violence for someone to come out and say "God saved me. Look at me I'm special!!!" No, you're not special, just lucky.
And he didn't claim to be special. You are the insulting one.
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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If the guy is thankful to be allive and is a believer, what harm is he doing to anyone by saying God blocked the bullet? It was simply a statement based on his beliefs..that's all-----he didn't ask anyone to believe him.
Yes, he has the right to his opinion, but it also perpetuates the myth of gods and the fact they have any power over anything (save for the minds of those that follow the myth without evidence).

How many people have prayed over some medical condition because they believe the myth of a god that will cure them, and have died or suffered unduly because they did not go to a doctor in time.
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:51 PM
 
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Yes, he has the right to his opinion, but it also perpetuates the myth of gods and the fact they have any power over anything (save for the minds of those that follow the myth without evidence).

How many people have prayed over some medical condition because they believe the myth of a god that will cure them, and have died or suffered unduly because they did not go to a doctor in time.
Of course like most things I tell they are redundant but to me this is perfect proof about how much good prayer does...none, zero, zilch, nada.

When I was a youngster in the 1940's, 1050's I went to Wednesday night prayer meetings with my grandparents. People were dying in droves from heart problems or cancer. There was little anyone could do for either ailment. Usually if an initial heart attack didn't take people out they laid around as an invalid for a year or two and died. There was no treatment for cancer except antiquated surgical techniques and half the time if they operated the cancer metasticized and they died within a year or often for the more virulent forms within a few months. Prayer lists were a foot or two long. Every family either had a member or a close friend who was ailing. Prayers were said by the millions and guess what? They died anyway.

Now with better diets, sophisticated diagnostic systems, stents, bypass surgery, transplants, robotic surgery, chemotherapy, radiation treatments etc. the same kind of patients often live on into their eighties and sometimes nineties. All that praying back then didn't have anything to do with their dying and it doesn't have anything to do with their living now. These statistics can be proven by actuarial tables used by insurance companies and we all know they don't bet on a loser.

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Old 12-17-2010, 01:20 AM
 
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I too have been saddened when the answer to a prayer was "no". I have witnessed many more occasions when the answer was "yes!". We don't know why God does the things He does, but He loves us and we can trust in His judgement as being correct.
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