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heheheheh. I'd be the person everyone was glaring at. Grumpiness about being dragged somewhere against one's will is an excuse.
You sound like my 11 yo son...grumpy and complaining about.....
church....school....basically anything that requires any effort....I hope I'm not in trouble.....please tell me that it was a "phase" for you and you're really a brain surgeon....
You sound like my 11 yo son...grumpy and complaining about.....
church....school....basically anything that requires any effort....I hope I'm not in trouble.....please tell me that it was a "phase" for you and you're really a brain surgeon....
School I enjoyed. The longer you spend on the couch the more you see the need to keep yourself occupied with something later on.
Here I am again, having wandered into a religious forum...the title "what does your church preach" caught my eye. I was very curious.
Having read the post it seems that mostly churches preach that anyone who wants to be saved must accept Jesus. But that surely can't be all they preach.
Anyone who has read my posts anywhere will know I'm an atheist, but I am very curious about what churches preach.
Sometimes, I've listened to radio broadcasts of various churches.
Often I get the impression that many preachers subtly preach politics to favor the conservative side, also to look down of others.
I have read parts of the bible and thought that many ideas that Jesus said were very good, only if people lived by his teachings. Such as, how we should all treat each other. I know that in one section in the bible (which I can't find) Jesus says that for one man to mistreat another man he (Jesus) regards that as a slap in his face. From the way people treat each other Jesus's face must be awfully red and bruised.
I wonder, what do preachers preach for their congregations to have an honest look at themselves?
As I've stated in another thread, I attend a Calvary Chapel here in Southern California. Here's their statement of faith:
The Calvary Chapel Church has been formed as a fellowship of believers
in the Lordship of Jesus Christ.
Our supreme desire is to know Christ and be conformed into His image
by the power of the Holy Spirit.
We are not a denominational church,
nor are we opposed to denominations as such,
only their over-emphasis of doctrinal differences that
have led to the division of the body of Christ.
We Believe that the only true basis of Christian fellowship is His (Agape) love, which is greater than any differences we possess and without which we have no right to claim ourselves Christians.
We Believe worship of God should be Spiritual.
Therefore: We remain flexible and yielded to the Holy Spirit to direct our worship.
We Believe worship of God should be Inspirational.
Therefore: We give a great place to music in our worship.
We Believe worship of God should be Intelligent.
Therefore: Our services are designed with great emphasis upon teaching of the Word of God that He might instruct us how He should be worshipped.
We Believe worship of God is Fruitful.
Therefore: We look for His Love in our lives as the supreme manifestation that we have truly been worshipping Him.
They believe that the gifts of the Spirit are for today, even though they aren't expressed during the worship services (speaking in tongues, healing, prophesying, etc.).
They believe in a pre-Tribulational rapture of the Church.
They don't have women pastors, only men (just like the Fundamentalist Baptist churches).
They don't believe in once saved/always saved.
They have churches all over the country and the world. Here's their website in case anyone is interested in finding out more:
[quote=Visvaldis;1066854]Here I am again, having wandered into a religious forum...the title "what does your church preach" caught my eye. I was very curious.
Having read the post it seems that mostly churches preach that anyone who wants to be saved must accept Jesus. But that surely can't be all they preach.
Anyone who has read my posts anywhere will know I'm an atheist, but I am very curious about what churches preach.
Sometimes, I've listened to radio broadcasts of various churches. Often I get the impression that many preachers subtly preach politics to favor the conservative side, also to look down of others.I have read parts of the bible and thought that many ideas that Jesus said were very good, only if people lived by his teachings. Such as, how we should all treat each other. I know that in one section in the bible (which I can't find) Jesus says that for one man to mistreat another man he (Jesus) regards that as a slap in his face. From the way people treat each other Jesus's face must be awfully red and bruised. I wonder, what do preachers preach for their congregations to have an honest look at themselves?[/QUOTE]
The salvation message is almost always included in any service. That's always the primary focus.
If you consider that many denominations have 3 (or perhaps more) services per week, almost every subject available in the Bible has probably been the subject of a message. It starts out with scriptural references.
There have been a couple of times that I've heard actual politics from the pulpit and it absolutely makes me cringe. And it certainly wasn't in the church that I now attend.
I'm not sure what you mean by subtly preaching politics to favor the conservative side. Perhaps some do, or perhaps some conservative stands are simply congruent with Biblical teachings.
We're always to look inwardly, not to see if we meet the expectations of those around us, or in the eyes of the pastor, but to look to God for how we should conduct ourselves. The pastor will use scripture as a basis for personal conduct.
Also, the pastor preaches to the church...and what our responsibilty is to God, each other, and those outside the church.
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